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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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and a ran across this....









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Excellent choice for an upgrade from a 1.5 or 1.6L Civic or replacement for your Accord. Engine has about 65k on it. Ran fine when pulled from a rearended 95 Accord but has been sitting around for just over a year now. Some parts have been scavenged by others such as the timing belt tensioner bolt and spring and some other small items. Does turn over but tightens up. I don't know if it's out of time with some of the timing stuff being removed or what. Could probably use a good going over but I don't have the time or space any more. My loss is YOUR gain! Don't let this pass you by, it's an excellent and FAIRLY PRICED choice for that upgrade or replacement. Comes with engine wiring harness (not pictured).

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$200. i think its a good find, i set aside $500 for another f22. but if i can hop on this <u>and</u> have money left over. i'm all over it. but what do you think?
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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the timing issue kinda scares me man....but other than that taking the milage into consideration seems like a sound motor....and as always have to have a spare around....good call on the spare....i'd go with it, theres many more f22's layin around if something goes wrong....on another note....whats the plan for the build if you dont mind me asking?
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 04:30 AM
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... scary but to good to pass up
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 04:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oem_certified_accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Info Provided By Seller:

...Some parts have been scavenged by others such as the timing belt tensioner bolt and spring and some other small items. Does turn over but tightens up. I don't know if it's out of time with some of the timing stuff being removed or what.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

uhh, yeah... By the way I take that there is nothing holding tension on the timing belt since the spring and bolt holding the tensioner has been removed. Therefor nothing is holding the camshaft and crankshaft in time. it could be binding up because the valves aren't moving out of the way when they should or he could just be feeling resistance from the pistons building compression as you turn the crankshaft pulley.

Is this something local or something you've found over the internet?
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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it's an internet sale i scavanged upon, i noted the issues he pointed out but only brought it to the table here at HT due to the fact that for $200 + probably some bs shipping price..i'll left over money to toss around for the timing belt kit,water pump & full gasket kit in addition to the items he/she say are missing. i emailed him/her to provide for me in detail what was missing. and when i find that out i'll bring it to the table.

as for the build..i dont plan to do anything too chaotic, just a simple boost setup @ about 9 or 10 psi. but before i go about my boost plans i need to find a spare powerplant with the generic 40-60k on it in my opinion.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:21 AM
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Make sure you're actually saving money once you add up the cost of the missing parts, hmm?
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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the motor i orginally found was about $655. i was gonna change the timing belt kit & water pump on that one anyway. so add in the cost of the water pump & timing belt kit. we're looking at about $730-750 on the first motor i found.

so i think this is a good sale to aim for, here's what he said:

All the timing components will need replacing as should the water pump since it's the original and easier to replace when it's out of the car. Timing needs to be set and it will need a tune-up. This would be good for a swap when usually everything is replaced anyway.

i offered him $600 shipped and i'm waiting for his word back.

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to TA: remember that he said it's been sitting around for a year so when you say "[QUOTE=TouringAccord]Therefor nothing is holding the camshaft and crankshaft in time. it could be binding up because the valves aren't moving out of the way when they should or he could just be feeling resistance from the pistons building compression as you turn the crankshaft pulley.[QUOTE]

are you saying this with the mindset the engine is running or are you saying this is possible while dangling from a cherry picker?
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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no, I know it's been sitting on an engine stand. I'm not saying anything is definitely wrong I'm just giving you possible reasons why he would say that it tightens up.

normally, when doing a timing belt or valve adjustment you have to turn the motor by hand at some point. While turning the motor, as a pistons begins to compress the air inside the cylinder the motor gets harder to turn. So to make that process easier people will sometimes remove the spark plugs so no compression is building. But if he is trying to turn the motor without a tight timing belt then he is trying to turn the crank independently from the cam and therefor could be coming into contact with the valves since this is an interference motor. Not that that would hurt the engine since it's not like the car was running and the timing belt broke sending the pistons flying into the valves, again, just giving a possible reason for why he would say it "tightens up".

It's not a big deal to reset the timing, I'm just saying.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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oh okay i hear you on that TA, i'm not swapping alone i'm havin 2 mechanics (one with an EG, one with a wrx) help me drop it in. so the resetting / tune up won't be an issue, i just needed you to clarify that so i would know i wasn't getting a jacked up motor . thanks by the way.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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a good way to see you aren't getting a "jacked up motor" is to ask for a compression test but since the motor is on a stand and parts removed you'll just have to take their word for it. I don't mean to freak you out but I don't want to say you'll be fine and then have it get to you and there be a problem.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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ur nto near the northeast are you?

i have my 94 lx motor out of my car, its been sitting for a few years, but when i pulled it out, it had 75k on it, and recently did the timing belts and water pump on it, about 5k before i pulled it. she burned no oil and ran perfect. only reason i pulled it was because i blew up the automatic transmission, and replaced it with a new motor/5spd tranny
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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im down south my friend. as for getting a jacked up motor sent to my house..yes, for the most part most of the time you can only take one's word for it.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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darn, would've been perfect motor for ya, as i can gurantee you she's in perfect condition. road trip anyone?

but as far as that other motor, i am not sure I would bother with that, esepcailly when there are missing parts etc., when you don't know the credibiltiy of the seller.

there's nothing worse than putting in all your blood and sweat, then realizing you just wasted your money and time.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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so...you willing to ship that b2 eddie?
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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haha i wouldn't mind shipping at all, but i have no means of transporting it. if you find a friend near nyc to come get it, i'd be more than happy to let her go
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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if you give me a price on shipping, and i can dig it. i'll take it off your hands, from what i hear around HT your a reputable type of guy. i got a quote for $195 outta CA on the first lx motor i found. but this dude is tryna charge me $600. my last resort = h22a like "the rest"
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 04:41 AM
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I would prefer if you guys took this to PM's
don't want it to turn into a "I'll sell you my old motor" thread.

thanks
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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sorry TA, but i did eventually find one today. f22b2, $450. $195 on the shipping.

thanks for insight/advice/helping hands/comments/responses.










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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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no problem.

so did you already buy it then?
looks clean, how many miles?
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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thanks & thanks. yes, very clean. i was quoted the usual 40-60k. i'll post details upon arrival and teardown of it. off to work though take it easy.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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sweet, looks like u got a clean motor on the way! sorry i couldn't help ya out.
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