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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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MODS....
-HONDATA K-PRO COMPUTER
-RBC INTAKE MANIFOLD, KARCEPT TB SPACER,HONDATA INTAKE GASKET MANIFOLD
-COLD AIR INTAKE
-DC RACE HEADERS
-2 1/2 PIPPING TO HKS EXHAUST

First Run Made 197WHP
After Tuning With KPRO 202WHP

Does that sound about right?

I'm posting this for a friend who got his car tuned and wanted to know if thats about how much HP he should be making.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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try to add more timing see if it makes anymore power. other than that it looks a bit low
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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what type of dyno was he on?
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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what dyno did you run on ?
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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better header and exhaust i bet you will make better numbers
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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does seem a little low but the type of dyno and the condition can have effect

i have a cai/rh/k-pro (stock mani/exhaust)
and made 211whp at about 75 degrees on a dynojet
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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it was on a dynojet... Orignally a AWD Dyno but you can use it for FWD or RWD Application.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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i made 202whp in my rsx with cai and dcrh. Seems a bit low to me.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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any track times?
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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All depends on the dyno and the day. My stock baseline is 184WHP 130WTQ on a dynapack.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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Does your tuner have any experience on tuning kpro? it seems abit low I would say, have you check your compression? I made 190 with just a cold air, and flash 4. All dyno reads different, you can try to go to a different one to find out.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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post the dyno sheets...
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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dynopack has a tendancy to read 10% lower than the dynojet. But that number is more accurate.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1llmatic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dynopack has a tendancy to read 10% lower than the dynojet. But that number is more accurate.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought that was backwards where the dynapack reads higher...I have the 3in Injen SP1576 cold air intake, Comptech short header & HKS Hi-Power exhaust on my EP and I dynoed @ 153whp on a dynapack and stock is usually @ 132whp - 138whp...so your saying that with these basic mods I gained 15-21whp? I think that is a little too much...
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integlspwr2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">MODS....
-HONDATA K-PRO COMPUTER
-RBC INTAKE MANIFOLD, KARCEPT TB SPACER,HONDATA INTAKE GASKET MANIFOLD
-COLD AIR INTAKE
-DC RACE HEADERS
-2 1/2 PIPPING TO HKS EXHAUST

First Run Made 197WHP
After Tuning With KPRO 202WHP

Does that sound about right?

I'm posting this for a friend who got his car tuned and wanted to know if thats about how much HP he should be making.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is too low...only 5whp gain from k-pro tuning...I think it has to do with your K-Pro tuning...
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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damn theres gota be a problem, i have the same exact mods on my z1 and i put down 213whp
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by T_Virus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That is too low...only 5whp gain from k-pro tuning...I think it has to do with your K-Pro tuning...</TD></TR></TABLE>i didn't get much from k-pro as well
all the gains are middrange
i've got about 5-6 whp peak as well
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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add some ignition and adjust the cam angles

alot of tuners still dont understand how the k words mostly because the b&h are still popular so the think they both work the same


you have to graph out each cam angle then adjust the cam angle map according to the dyno sheets to make power

but you have to tune about 12 different maps to do so try adding ignition to the power columns and whe you start to register knock remove a few degrees of advance
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by weltall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">add some ignition and adjust the cam angles

alot of tuners still dont understand how the k words mostly because the b&h are still popular so the think they both work the same


you have to graph out each cam angle then adjust the cam angle map according to the dyno sheets to make power

but you have to tune about 12 different maps to do so try adding ignition to the power columns and whe you start to register knock remove a few degrees of advance </TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by weltall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">add some ignition and adjust the cam angles

alot of tuners still dont understand how the k words mostly because the b&h are still popular so the think they both work the same


you have to graph out each cam angle then adjust the cam angle map according to the dyno sheets to make power

but you have to tune about 12 different maps to do so try adding ignition to the power columns and whe you start to register knock remove a few degrees of advance </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats why some people dont like tuning kpro because soo much maps you gotta tune.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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yeah, its true
my friend did the whole map tuning on his too
it took a VERY long time
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VBPType-S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i made 202whp in my rsx with cai and dcrh. Seems a bit low to me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

really? seems to high, dc5tegk20 made 204whp with an aem cai, dcrh, hks exhaust and kpro, and a carbon fiber hood
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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I can help you if you let me

my car was tuned WITHOUT tuning each vtc map independantly (but still takes more effort & time)

FYI a stock 2006 si dyno'd 165/136 on the same dyno

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 6SPD_EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

get me a copy of his calibration - what was used for basemap? who did the tune - doesn't sound like vtc was touched? what do the vtc maps look like for high cam. does tuner know to leave knock sensor enabled? as k-pro does NOT pull timing - its up to the tuner to tune out knock

I have k20a w/rbc did 201/137 untuned & 220/156 tuned... gained 50whp & 40lb ft at 5K (this was on a LOW reading dynapack... gains here from k-pro tuning ALONE
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Here is the dyno sheet of my friends car.

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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 01:25 AM
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can't really see because of the blur

what's the green line?
is that before k-pro?
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