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K20Z1 Into EK Only Making... 202WHP

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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Default K20Z1 Into EK Only Making... 202WHP

MODS....
-HONDATA K-PRO COMPUTER
-RBC INTAKE MANIFOLD, KARCEPT TB SPACER,HONDATA INTAKE GASKET MANIFOLD
-COLD AIR INTAKE
-DC RACE HEADERS
-2 1/2 PIPPING TO HKS EXHAUST

First Run Made 197WHP
After Tuning With KPRO 202WHP

Does that sound about right?

I'm posting this for a friend who got his car tuned and wanted to know if thats about how much HP he should be making.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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Probably should have posted this in the RSX/EP forum, don't you think? The question has nothing to do with where the engine is - it could be in a dump truck for all you care.

Ask a mod to move it and I'm sure you'll get better answers
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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i would say that sounds about right...is it pretty much stock with just the modds?...dont expect to get crazy HP with just those modds you have on there
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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Nice numbers. How much did your buddy spend on the swap/mods?
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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Sounds good...how many "racing headers" did he put on it?
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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four
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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post the dyno sheet


throw some ips k2 cams and a better header in there and it'll really wake up
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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you need a better header, 3" exhaust, and a set of rcrew racing cams and you'd be having fun
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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why did he choose the z1?

there are better motors out there than the 05-06 rsx motor
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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Sir, please read the rules. We cannot guess what your HP is, or how fast your car can go, its just not feasable. We'd need ALL the variables, like air temp, what oil your running, what tires you have on, your timing at the time, your dyno sheet, etc, etc. Check the EP/RSX forum, or the hybrid forum. We're all B and D people in here.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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actually there are not too many people on hee with k swaps actually a good 99 percent of the pople on here havent even seen a k seires motor

i suggest (seriously suggest you go to k20a.org)

they know sooooooo much more than honda tech and the parts are such a good deal there its riduculous haha
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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doesn't the z1/a2 bone stock come with 170hp?? could be wrong...
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmoua &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">doesn't the z1/a2 bone stock come with 170hp?? could be wrong...</TD></TR></TABLE>

i would hope not

a2 was ~200hp
z1 ~210hp
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmoua &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">doesn't the z1/a2 bone stock come with 170hp?? could be wrong...</TD></TR></TABLE>

no............the z1 isnt a preffrede motor for a swap anyways its a step abouve the A3 but it isnt a k24/k20 hybrid............check out k20a.org
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i would hope not

a2 was ~200hp
z1 ~210hp</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry, i meant hp to the wheels on a dyno.


Modified by bmoua at 12:32 AM 9/5/2007
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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Is this a corrected hp reading or uncorrected? With a better header and 3 inch exhaust. There are alot of variable that could change his numbers.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 12:33 AM
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with the cost of getting that z1 into the chasis why didnt he build a k24/k20?

dont ya need a diffrent ecu (since the 05-06 ecu isnt kpro compatible)

new VSS, new charging harness, to get that in there?

that does sound right, to get more horsepower out of it get the 440's injectors from the RDX if you're maxed out...............other wise you're right about where that motor is...............................you could get a better exuast manifold but we all know how much

k swap headers are.......................some compoaines want like waht 1200 for their product?

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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 02:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integlspwr2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

First Run Made 197WHP
After Tuning With KPRO 202WHP

Does that sound about right?

I'm posting this for a friend who got his car tuned and wanted to know if thats about how much HP he should be making.</TD></TR></TABLE>

get me a copy of his calibration - what was used for basemap? who did the tune - doesn't sound like vtc was touched? what do the vtc maps look like for high cam. does tuner know to leave knock sensor enabled? as k-pro does NOT pull timing - its up to the tuner to tune out knock

I have k20a w/rbc did 201/137 untuned & 220/156 tuned... gained 50whp & 40lb ft at 5K (this was on a LOW reading dynapack... gains here from k-pro tuning ALONE
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 04:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slow ej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually there are not too many people on hee with k swaps actually a good 99 percent of the pople on here havent even seen a k seires motor

i suggest (seriously suggest you go to k20a.org)

they know sooooooo much more than honda tech and the parts are such a good deal there its riduculous haha </TD></TR></TABLE>

I guarantee you most or all of the k20a.org members are members here as well. They just dwell in the app/cos forums, rsx/ep3 forums, hybrid forums, and all motor forums.

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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:20 AM
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I still want to know how much it cost...
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 06:39 AM
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crappy header

maybe it was a mustang dyno?
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95ProjectEJ1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I still want to know how much it cost... </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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friend put a z1 in his del sol. with crazy deals on stuff , got it in the car for under 7k.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by envee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">friend put a z1 in his del sol. with crazy deals on stuff , got it in the car for under 7k.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think the "crazy deals" your buddy received would throw him in that small %. Most people who do the swap from what I have heard usually pay out of the butt.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by envee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">friend put a z1 in his del sol. with crazy deals on stuff , got it in the car for under 7k.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why a z1 tho thats an expensive 2.0 to swap in....................threr not that much i know a few people who bought blocks and pieaced to gether the swap for 11 grand..........and the k20a2's from totaltedd RSX cars make things cheaper could be done for 5 grand........but then again i cna pieace toghtere a d16z6 powered car in my garage right this second for free


please keep this thing on topic as to why the orignal poster's z1 is running shitty numbers ................. host a new topic if you really want to know the price of a k swap.............go to k20a.org............no offense but if you have to ask that question then you're not ready for the swap. its not hard......................but if swapping a b series takes longer than 2 hours for you skip the k
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