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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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We WhitfieldRacingInc have come across a new product line of honda/acura throttle bodies that have hit the market. I decided to test this unit agains a stock gsr as well as a stock ITR unit. I realize that Throttle bodies are nothing new.. however these caught my eye for a few different reasons. some of these being ... they look stock from the out side ( yet ARE NOT factory units rebored), they are sold with or without a BRAND NEW TPS sensor, they DO NOT have the crappy sticking issues like the 'billet" unit out there. and they are a true 68mm bore throughout. anyways here are some pics as well as the 2 dyno comparisons i did .Iwill be testing these on a bigger setup here in the next week or so .
<FONT SIZE="4"><FONT COLOR="blue"> i cannot post prices on these so please PM me for details, or you could always call the shop</FONT></FONT>
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ps: sorry george and 98vtec
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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had the pleasure of playing with one on my friends H2b setup, very good qaulity for the $$$ and it drove very nice!
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2083557
that was locked last night for a reason and i'm sure this thread is borderline straight promotion too, being it's your own product. If you post a comparision, post a straight comparision and not some biased promotional bs, let your product sell itself. this is a technical forum. plus those aren't even dyno graphs of FI applications.

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Seriously man..
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2084419
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicVX94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2083557
that was locked last night for a reason and i'm sure this thread is borderline straight promotion too, being it's your own product. If you post a comparision, post a straight comparision and not some biased promotional bs, let your product sell itself. this is a technical forum. plus those aren't even dyno graphs of FI applications.

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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2084419</TD></TR></TABLE> first off who are you? second its not MY or OUR PRODUCT .. yes we carry them in stock as we do with thousands of other products ... i test things like this free of charge for honda-tech members.... i re did the thread to include dyno comparisons as i did in the SAME post in the allmotor forum.. where i was told that the way i presented it this time was much better than last night .. soooooooo oh and i will be doing a back to back on a force inducted vehicle ... again i dont get payed to do these tests for you guys so i do them when i get a free moment..
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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who makes them or what brand are they sold under?
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WHITFIELD-TUNED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> first off who are you? second its not MY or OUR PRODUCT .. yes we carry them in stock as we do with thousands of other products ... i test things like this free of charge for honda-tech members.... i re did the thread to include dyno comparisons as i did in the SAME post in the allmotor forum.. where i was told that the way i presented it this time was much better than last night .. soooooooo oh and i will be doing a back to back on a force inducted vehicle ... again i dont get payed to do these tests for you guys so i do them when i get a free moment.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you're posting this **** up to promote a product that you sell and those results don't mean anything to this forum. You don't see ANY OTHER SPONSOR on the whole site posting up biased promotional bs about a product they sell, whether they are the manufacturer or not. A 68mm throttle body will make just as much power as the next, reguardless of the brand.
And you tested "free of charge to honda-tech members"? I mean seriously, who the hell would pay to see a test? Your post is a blatant promotion of the product, no **** you don't get paid to promote it but you get paid to sell it, which go hand and hand.
I'm not bashing the product, you, or your company. If anything i'm bashing the marketing and i'm hardly doing that.
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicVX94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you're posting this **** up to promote a product that you sell and those results don't mean anything to this forum. You don't see ANY OTHER SPONSOR on the whole site posting up biased promotional bs about a product they sell, whether they are the manufacturer or not. A 68mm throttle body will make just as much power as the next, reguardless of the brand.
And you tested "free of charge to honda-tech members"? I mean seriously, who the hell would pay to see a test? Your post is a blatant promotion of the product, no **** you don't get paid to promote it but you get paid to sell it, which go hand and hand.
I'm not bashing the product, you, or your company. If anything i'm bashing the marketing and i'm hardly doing that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

look man this is NOT THE ONLY THROTTLE BODY WE CARRY, STOCK, USE... i just happen to like them as far as looks, performance price etc. i will sell a customer BDL,STR,PP, if that is what they want...

now about the way you post.. you post as if you are speaking for this entire HT community example:"free of charge to honda-tech members"? I mean seriously, who the hell would pay to see a test?
example#2those results don't mean anything to this forum so are you saying that when people such as my self who happen to have purchased a dyno ... take their PERSONAL time to test parts that people on this site are interested in ... and then post up the results without asking for anything in return... should just stop doing this??? isnt free information good for everyone .... if everyone thought as you do ... there would be a lot more money wasted on parts that dont work. well **** the infomercial promissed 25% more power on any vehicle... it must be true.. please leave my thread .. go purchase whatever parts are the next "hype" and calculate your horsepower by simply adding all the numbers off the sides of the boxes that the manufacturers say they give you ... and i will stay in my meek existance doing my best to help customers and HT members with REAL info that obviously is not as important as what you have to spew out of your little mouth .

For anyone else out there that appreciates people doing tests like these.. thank you for your welcomed comments and i will continue my shitty testing
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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WHy do you even waste your time with these "know it all fools" ? I was actually interested in the post and would like to see the difference between this ne T Body and the Skunk2 one we have now. If he has a problem with the thread , he just has to get off of it. People crying about stuff like this makes me want to stop going on this site sometimes. to Whitfield Racing and the constant infothey share with us. This is the type of info that has allowed us to use the right product to obtain the best result...and we have.
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PWRSPDEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WHy do you even waste your time with these "know it all fools" ? I was actually interested in the post and would like to see the difference between this ne T Body and the Skunk2 one we have now. If he has a problem with the thread , he just has to get off of it. People crying about stuff like this makes me want to stop going on this site sometimes. to Whitfield Racing and the constant infothey share with us. This is the type of info that has allowed us to use the right product to obtain the best result...and we have.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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Good luck with your sale, as that's all this thread is. I'm not going to argue with you about it anymore as it's useless. You're stooping to making uninformed personal attacks on me because I said this is marketing in a technical forum
Prove this mystery (as you've yet to say the brand name) 68mm throttle body makes more power over another company's 68mm throttle body. I appreciate, I honestly do and I'm sure a good portion of the H-T comunity does also, you informing us that on a naturally aspirated engine you can gain 4whp with a ~3ishmm larger throttle body (obviously the gain would be larger on an FI engine) but thats pointing out the obvious. As a true comparision and to really help sell the product, why not do a comparision between it and it's competitors (which you also stock and use), such as an overbored stock or any other name brand 68mm throttle body or even a tapered throttle body? If you really all about helping out H-T members (which by no means am i saying your not) and at the same time selling the best product, this would really be the way and would prove me completly wrong-that you're not just trying to sell a product

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PWRSPDEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WHy do you even waste your time with these "know it all fools" ? I was actually interested in the post and would like to see the difference between this ne T Body and the Skunk2 one we have now. If he has a problem with the thread , he just has to get off of it. People crying about stuff like this makes me want to stop going on this site sometimes. to Whitfield Racing and the constant infothey share with us. This is the type of info that has allowed us to use the right product to obtain the best result...and we have.</TD></TR></TABLE>
know it all fools? b/c this is a technical forum and this is a blatant advertisement?i'm not crying about anything, this thread just doesn't belong here. This is what an add in the classified section would look like for this product, in order to have the info to allow you to use a product that obtains the best results you should compare it to competition. That's like Hytech posting a dyno comparision of their header vs a stock gsr header...obviously there will be a gain, now prove your product offers the largest gain, or at least the best bang for the buck.
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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There are thousands of threads on what parts make for power as compared to others. They aren't put in the classified section. Dyno comparisons on parts is how people get info to help build their setups and get help if they need it. This particular forum is All Motor so anything that has to do with All Motor power should be in here. Did Whitfield list any pricing or anything...NO! I go on this site all the time to help get dyno results and hear what people have to say and reccomend.And if I can get a T Body that makes the same power as a T body that cost double the amount , I would want to know. So if your not the one running this site , then stop complaining. No body else is crying about it so what does it make you look like. I thought so. Anyone else have any other info they would like to share on any parts?
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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i say that it is a POWER throttle body. i know cause i got one. ha.. really does work too. i made 192 horse and 132 torque on a stock ls-vtec.
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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was the manifold port matched to the throttle body?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PWRSPDEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WHy do you even waste your time with these "know it all fools" ? I was actually interested in the post and would like to see the difference between this ne T Body and the Skunk2 one we have now. If he has a problem with the thread , he just has to get off of it. People crying about stuff like this makes me want to stop going on this site sometimes. to Whitfield Racing and the constant infothey share with us. This is the type of info that has allowed us to use the right product to obtain the best result...and we have.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lunatics209 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i say that it is a POWER throttle body. i know cause i got one. ha.. really does work too. i made 192 horse and 132 torque on a stock ls-vtec. </TD></TR></TABLE> That's what I thought it was, I have one also- I've NEVER had any sticking issues with mine. It gets a from me.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 04:44 AM
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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civicVX94.. if you will take the time to actually read my post(s) you will see that i plan on testing them against other large bre t-bodies and also test them on FI applications. i still dont get how i am promoting this t body over any other one .. i carry alot of different brands and sell all of them ... this is just to test an inexpensive unit vs. higher costing ones.

pics of the FI vehicle/setup we will be testing the trottle body on ... coming soon
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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How cute you are

Here's some tech - A gt35 is better then no turbo at all !
- I made more power with a gt40 then the ptrim 60
- My boosted cars require more spark then my stock cars

I got more if you want ?

PS Respect will get you 3 x more then you think !
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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yes i know crappy cell pix
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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No different than the power TB's.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WHITFIELD-TUNED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">civicVX94.. if you will take the time to actually read my post(s) you will see that i plan on testing them against other large bre t-bodies and also test them on FI applications. i still dont get how i am promoting this t body over any other one .. i carry alot of different brands and sell all of them ... this is just to test an inexpensive unit vs. higher costing ones.</TD></TR></TABLE>
look forward to seeing it, good luck with the sale <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Whitfield Inc. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How cute you are

Here's some tech - A gt35 is better then no turbo at all !
- I made more power with a gt40 then the ptrim 60
- My boosted cars require more spark then my stock cars

I got more if you want ?

PS Respect will get you 3 x more then you think !</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll once again ignore the demeaning bs. And your "tech" is exactly what I'm talking about. If this was a comparision between another brands 68mm tbody and not a stock unit it'd be different. I suppose I just fail to see why this thread was made to show everyone how great it is, if the comparision against another staright through 68mm had yet to be done and how this isn't a promotion or an attempt to upsell a product with the whole pm for pricing thing.
O well I'm done, you win. Good luck with the sale, bump for dyno testing and tech
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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If your doing the actual research and comparing them without making the post an obviously advertisement, then fine. If your researching something and then someone pm's you and you can sell them something you have all the right in the world. The aftermarket parts market is so highly competitive (especially with the internet) you need to do what you can to get ahead of the pack. If your research allows you to do this good for you. As long as your posting useful information then you get a . P.s. Look at most signatures on honda-tech. There all advertisements. People make thousands of post and there sig promotes what there doing, therefor benefiting from posting. If you really want to get technical you shouldnt be allowed to advertise in your signature unless your a honda-tech sponsor.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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I could see butt-raping him if he posted something like "Hey, look at the graphs I was given by the maker of this throttle body!", but apparently he actually did the testing himself.

IMO best way for a parts retailer to get this sort of research through is to post something like "New throttle body dyno compairison on my customer's car!" People would swing on your nuts bandwagon-style all day long if that was the case. Then someone will always ask for more info, and that gets the ball rolling in a 'non-advertising' way.

CivicVX94 - I don't seem to see you in every tuner's threads detailing how well a certain car did, seeing as how you can call that 'advertising a service'. They toot their own horn regarding tuning, then mention 'By the way, I tune Neptune, Hondata, AEM, etc..." Same for all the threads made by fabricators - do they need to pull someone off the street in order to share pictures and info? If you want to hate, go to the GD&D forum and start a war over religion or politics or something - we really don't want that crap here.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hotimportcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If your doing the actual research and comparing them without making the post an obviously advertisement, then fine. If your researching something and then someone pm's you and you can sell them something you have all the right in the world. The aftermarket parts market is so highly competitive (especially with the internet) you need to do what you can to get ahead of the pack. If your research allows you to do this good for you. As long as your posting useful information then you get a . P.s. Look at most signatures on honda-tech. There all advertisements. People make thousands of post and there sig promotes what there doing, therefor benefiting from posting. If you really want to get technical you shouldnt be allowed to advertise in your signature unless your a honda-tech sponsor. </TD></TR></TABLE>

u make a great point
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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i like to see comparisons, but this is FI and it would be nice if the parts were on FI vehicles, aside from that its still nice to at least see it on NA, we all got NA friends, hell some of us have both FI and NA cars...
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