ive been trying to find the great header test pics with these 2 headers put against each other with no success. i know the smsp won but i want to see how badly. can somebody post up the pics please?

 

LOL

 

I tested a Hytech ITR header against an SMSP B19 header on my 2 liter and there was no clear winner. The Hytech was significantly better below 4,000 RPM- the SMSP had a nice peak at 6,000, and they made close to the same peak power-with a very slight edge going to the SMSP. Either header is a good investment.

 

peak at 6k?

care to post up the dyno?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by type NA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">peak at 6k?

care to post up the dyno?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

hope this thread doesnt start a argument. like b19 says cant go wrong either way,but the va man gets my vote,so i im gonna bump it for smsp

 

I like the peak of the SMSP better than the 4k'ish of the Hytech. Who races at 4k?

 

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exactly what i was thinking. i guess smsp is in the future

 

Every Hytech style header I seen is all dented up on the bottom. My SMSP has not at all been dented even tho my car has always been slammed. SMSP style all the way when it comes to ground clearance.

 

I guess I might as well put this thread on my watch list.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess I might as well put this thread on my watch list.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol

being pro-active is being one step ahead!

what people fail to realize is the smsp header was built for a larger than stock CC b series block, while the hytech was the original design for a stock CC..
which probably accounts for the hytech owning the smsp downlow, while the smsp has the slight edge up top at WOT and in the upper rpm range of the powerband.

 

smsp

 

smps FTW since it has better ground clearances...by buddy's b19 header has not one dent in it yet and the roads up here are pretty rough

 

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what people fail to realize is the smsp header was built for a larger than stock CC b series block, while the hytech was the original design for a stock CC..
which probably accounts for the hytech owning the smsp downlow, while the smsp has the slight edge up top at WOT and in the upper rpm range of the powerband.</TD></TR></TABLE>


hmm... interesting way to look at it... is there a properly built setup hytech graph floating around?

 

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I had an SMSP header on my car when it was in B motor trim. It went off roading a couple of times w/out incurring any damage.

http://is.rely.net/1-92-20925-...g.jpg

http://is.rely.net/1-92-20926-...A.jpg

Those are pretty big pictures, so be prepared. It shows the B motor ITR in a fairly close-hauled heel with an idea of the ground clearance. The car was lowered to get camber on the nose, so the clearance is worse than it would be on a street car.

The headers he makes now might have better clearance.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by type NA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> is there a properly built setup hytech graph floating around?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know about "properly built", but the same Hytech header made this graph on a 1.8 liter ITR motor:

 

i remember seeing a "newer" smsp that you cant see through the bottom of the car from the front. thats the kind of clearance im looking for.

 

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I don't know about "properly built", but the same Hytech header made this graph on a 1.8 liter ITR motor:
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Do you mind saying how that motor was built?

 

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Very carefully
Originally posted that graph in this thread:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1528739

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Very carefully
Originally posted that graph in this thread:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1528739
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B19,

The motor in that link was tremedous. I have to give you mad props. That link should be a sticky.

Anyway, I put it in my sig.


Modified by mar778c at 8:27 PM 8/31/2007

 

love my smsp header.. and dave has really good customer service

 

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Very slowly </TD></TR></TABLE>

Fixed it for you old man.

 

Here's my SMSP, ground clearance FTW! Best shot I have right now, but it sits just about perfectly level with the lowest point of the oil pan.

 

I'd like to know what was done to that itr motor.
Those numbers are really good.
They approach some of the better cams & bolt-on k20's.
Nice work, and nice graph!!!

 

Well i have a SMSP and am totally satisfied. the header fit great and the tone that the car puts out is awesome. ANd well it got me to 210 whp so works great to me.