I am having my Type R engine rebuilt. My builder recommends Pauter connecting rods with Hastings rings. Has anyone ever heard of these rods before?

Also, where would I be able to obtain exact weights for indidvidual engine components? Is there a listing somewhere on the internet?

 

google it..!!

 

they are baller rods. go for it.

 

pauter rods the the best yo! thats why they are the most expensive

 

There are lighter rods out there for a NA build, but they are very strong rods.

 

My vote goes for carillo. From what i've read/heard though, pauter rods are good rods.

 

Pauter Rods are very good rods. They are not the lightest but they can withstand almost anything. Most high hp turbo guys run Pauter or Manley Rods!!! They are worth the price!!

 

If youre looking at building an all motor setup, look into the Carrillo Pro-A rods. In my opinion, Pauters are the heaviest rod out there. good for turbo, but for all motor, there are other options.

For comparison, an Eagle GSR/ITR rod is about 540g and a Carrillo Pro-A rod are about 411g. We've used Pauters in some builds for customers in the past for turbo setups and they felt as heavy or even more than the Eagles.

Carrillo Pro-A for All Motor engines is my choice.

 

That's exactly what this is, an all-motor NA setup. So, Carillo? what do you think of the Hastings rings?

 

Hastings ring are good. I've had no problems with them.

 

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I'll have to agree 100%. I've used hastings rings in over 30 builds, unless the customer provided rings with their pistons. I've never had ANY problems with them and I refuse to run anything but Hastings rings in my own motors. After talking with many experienced (Honda) engine builders, and with my own experience with them, i'd say that they're one of the best, if not the best rings on the market.

You definitely don't want the pauter rods for an all motor setup. No doubt, they are stronger than stock, but they are indeed heavier. My recommendation is Carillo Pro-A rods. What pistons do you plan on running?

 

youve heard exospeed carillo for NA pauter for turbo take their word the weights say it all man...

 

I was hoping to reuse some of the internals, and I heard the Type R piston is pretty solid and has a good crown design, so I was planning on reusing my JDM type r pistons.

Does anyone have the weight breakdown for the Type R con rod vs. the Pauter chro mo rod vs. the Carillo A?

My builder said he could only find Hastings rings for the B18C1 GSR. Where can I find the Hastings rings for my Type R?

 

you cannot use stock cast pistons with forged rods without modifying the piston or rod first

 

what about cunningham rods?

 

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You cannot use any aftermarket forged rod that has a full floating wrist pin with a cast piston that has a press-fit wrist pin, without modifying one or the other.

 

Ah. I did not know this. But my builder should have. I guess he would have found out in time, like when he dismantled the engine lol. Too late to pre-order all the components beforehand, at that point, eh? Good to know..

But what to do now? Are there any aftermarket rods that will fit my cast Type R pistons with its current pin setup? I was hoping to reuse those pistons..

 

Why not use the factory rods? They hold up quite well in all motor situations. Many 210+ whp setups using OEM internals.

 

So, what would be a good intake manifold that would develop low and mid end torque? The Blox intake with its shorter runners over the Skunk with longer runners?

And another question about the Pauter rods- what about the Titanium rods? Are they too overpriced to be practical, despite their lighter weight? I could not even obtain the prices for Ti rods on the Pauter site, which I guess means if you have to ask, ya don't wanna know.. how much do those things run?

 

not trying to knock on your engine builder. But are they familiar with building honda engines? First of all, they recommended Pauter rods, then you're not even using forged pistons. There's a wrong combo in there somewhere.

You have to lay it out to the engine builder what kind of pistons you want to use, rods you want to use, etc. Then they should tell you if it will work, if its a recommended combo and if its necesarry for your needs.

Then you're asking about Titanium rods, thats a totally different level from what you are doing.

And you're thinking of reusing your pistons. that should have been a sign to your builder to the level of build you want to do.

I suggest rethinking your setup before buying anything. Dont spend money where its not necesary.

 

Has your builder ever removed cast pistons from stock rods before? I've heard of some places that won't even touch used pistons because they end up breaking skirts pressing the pins out of the stock pistons.

 

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Does anyone have the weight breakdown for the Type R con rod vs. the Pauter chro mo rod vs. the Carillo A?

My builder said he could only find Hastings rings for the B18C1 GSR. Where can I find the Hastings rings for my Type R?</TD></TR></TABLE>

All 81mm bseries engines use the same piston rings. I.E. B16a, b16b, b17a, b18a, b18b, b18c

 

eagle makes a con rod that will connect to a stock oem piston. but i think they only make them for the h22.

 

pauters are a good rod ,manley makes a lightweight i beam or cunningham rods are good and oliver rods are excellent as well i had the lightweight manley i beamms in my allmotor but sold them and know using oliver rods in my boosted motor all those rods run about $700 to $800 dollars

 

I've got a set of H22 Carrillo Pro-A rods and Eagle rods sitting infront of me and the difference in weight and quality is deffinately worth the extra money