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Starter Signal GETTING NO Power Replaced Fuse !! EG Civic

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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Basic information about the car OBD1 95 EG D16Z6 series motor.
Replaced starter with a working one tested both starters both good. Nothing has been touched on the car....Took a voltage meter to the starter signal no positive power shown at all AT ALL key position including start.. Fuse has been checked and replaced to rule it out... What can be causing this problem? How do i fix it ? is the wire bad or what?

Things Replaced or checked and came out good
Fuse 7.5 Starter Signal Fuse
Battery Power.
Solenoid.
New Starter System .
Please need help on this
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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when i did my motor swap i had the same problem and it ended up to be the ground check it and make sure it is bolted down tight solved my problem
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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which ground would i need to check?
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92EG8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">which ground would i need to check?</TD></TR></TABLE>


all of them valve cover, body grond to the tranny, battery, and the one that goes on the thermostat housing
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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CHECK THE NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH. ON THE CLUTCH PEDAL THERE IS AT LEAST ONE AND SOMETIMES TWO SWITCHES. THE CAR NEEDS TO KNOW THAT YOU'VE PRESSED THE CLUTCH. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN NEUTRAL, THE CAR DOESN'T KNOW THIS. I'M ASSUMING IT'S A MANUAL. IF AUTOMATIC IT COULD STILL BE THE NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH. IF YOU HAVE SOME SMALL PLASTIC PIECES (DARK BLUE) ON THE FLOOR NEAR THE CLUTCH PEDAL THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM. LOOK AT THE CLUTCH PEDAL. FOLLOW IT UP UNDER THE DASH. YOU WILL SEE THE NEUTRAL SENSORS. IF YOU HAVE THE BLUE GROMMET MISSING OUT OF THE PEDAL IT WON'T ENGAGE THE SWITCH AND THE CAR DOESN'T KNOW YOU'VE PRESSED THE PEDAL. HONDA SELLS THIS LITTLE SUCKERS FOR ABOUT $2 EACH. AS YOUR CAR AGES THE HEAT DISSOLVES THE GROMMET. I BELIEVE THE NEW STYLE IS MADE OF A DIFFERENT PLASTIC/RUBBER AND THEY ARE WHITE NOW.

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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mine was the one from the fram to the tranny on top that was loose i tightend it and it started right up
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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thanks to all the help i will try this out and hopefully it will work out
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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grounds are checked all good what else can i look for ???
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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could it be the starter relay under the PGM-FI Relay in the under dash
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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anyone know?
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Jump the starter to the battery - see if it starts.

Check the PGM-FI Relay and the starter relay.

Starter Relay Test:

1 3
2 4

There should be continuity between 3/4. There should also be continuity between 1/2 if a battery is connected to 3/4.

Test the starter in a different car - see if it starts the engine.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RIZOBIZERT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CHECK THE NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH. ON THE CLUTCH PEDAL THERE IS AT LEAST ONE AND SOMETIMES TWO SWITCHES. THE CAR NEEDS TO KNOW THAT YOU'VE PRESSED THE CLUTCH. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN NEUTRAL, THE CAR DOESN'T KNOW THIS. I'M ASSUMING IT'S A MANUAL. IF AUTOMATIC IT COULD STILL BE THE NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH. IF YOU HAVE SOME SMALL PLASTIC PIECES (DARK BLUE) ON THE FLOOR NEAR THE CLUTCH PEDAL THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM. LOOK AT THE CLUTCH PEDAL. FOLLOW IT UP UNDER THE DASH. YOU WILL SEE THE NEUTRAL SENSORS. IF YOU HAVE THE BLUE GROMMET MISSING OUT OF THE PEDAL IT WON'T ENGAGE THE SWITCH AND THE CAR DOESN'T KNOW YOU'VE PRESSED THE PEDAL. HONDA SELLS THIS LITTLE SUCKERS FOR ABOUT $2 EACH. AS YOUR CAR AGES THE HEAT DISSOLVES THE GROMMET. I BELIEVE THE NEW STYLE IS MADE OF A DIFFERENT PLASTIC/RUBBER AND THEY ARE WHITE NOW.

GOOD LUCK</TD></TR></TABLE>

The only reason for 2 switches is for the CC cut and the starter safe. I jump those sensors sometimes in the winter so you don't have to get into the car and hit the clutch.

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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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To answer above posters... Changed starter was tested and works ...WILL start if i jump the battery to the spade female plug on the starter also the only thing i see is a black oval switch that goes in and out by the clutch pedal looks good there... also where can i locate the Starter Relay i have a 95 Coupe EX ...The PGMFI works fine if not fuel pump wouldnt prime...correct?
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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1324 DO u mean test contnuity in the distributor?? Or where do those numbers signify?
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92EG8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1324 DO u mean test contnuity in the distributor?? Or where do those numbers signify?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, the starter relay test.

The numbers signify the "prongs" on the relay.
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