I have aebs sleeves in a B18 block, it is 84mm. I stripped off the threads on my block with my head bolt. I used a timesert to repair it. It worked great until I removed the head to replace the pistons ones more. Ones I torqued the head down the threads from the timesert stripped/ broke loose. So my question is has any one removed used sleeve from one block to another??? Any help will be helpful....


Modified by team1320 B20eg at 11:34 PM 8/24/2007


Modified by team1320 B20eg at 11:37 PM 8/24/2007

 

Any help out there??????

 

sounds like you need some helicoils, bc you really dont take sleeves from one block to another, it needs fresh sleeves unless you helicoil your stripped block

 

this is what he used..

Honda & Acura
Head Bolt
First Repair

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hott95ej2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like you need some helicoils, bc you really dont take sleeves from one block to another, it needs fresh sleeves unless you helicoil your stripped block</TD></TR></TABLE>
the timesert is a helicoil..

 

i had a helicoil break down in my block and it was trash because i couldnt tourque the bolt down... all the machine shops i went to told me the same thing "it trash".
just my experience with them.

 

That is what we where thinking too.. Thanks for the info

 

how did u strip out the head bolt in the first place?
I can only guess u didnt use a torque wrench, but thats besides the point.
If you have already "repaired" the thread once and the coil more or less came out again.. it wont exactly be the same to repair it.. you may have to take the block to a shop and they can weld more material onto you block and then tap it and deck the surface... thats an expensive repair my friend if your needing to save that block.

Edit: make sure its someone who knows how to freaking weld, and not jim rays cousin who tought himself

 

I don't want to repair the threads on the block, What i want is to see if any one out there has removed used sleeves from one block to another

 

ttt

 

thats a strange thing to do even if it fits fine a used sleeve is going to have different wear caracteristics(spelling?)than the one it going to replace. You are going to hone out this used sleeve, right?

infact scratch that just buy a new sleeve and hone it out to the proper size and save yourself the trouble of anything going wrong

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TooManyTickets &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats a strange thing to do even if it fits fine a used sleeve is going to have different wear caracteristics(spelling?)than the one it going to replace. You are going to hone out this used sleeve, right?

infact scratch that just buy a new sleeve and hone it out to the proper size and save yourself the trouble of anything going wrong</TD></TR></TABLE>
If I can remove the sleeves form one block to another I will make it 85mm.

 

You can get a bigsert timesert repair... Id do that rather than get a new block and swap the sleeves over

(and timesert is so many steps above helicoil its ridiculous)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can get a bigsert timesert repair... Id do that rather than get a new block and swap the sleeves over

(and timesert is so many steps above helicoil its ridiculous)</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes it is, that kit you see is $500 man. I am trying to see all the options I have so I can make the best decision..

 

ttt

 

You can buy larger head studs (1/2" dia) from AEBS or ARP an drill out that one and tap it for the larger stud.

I have seen serious horepower guys do it to all of them, but you can get away with just one.

also....I would never ask a question this tech in-depth in Honda Civic/Del Sol (1992 - 2000) forum, this forum is littered with kids that just got their first honda......FI would have been better since they deal with sleeved blocks more often than N/A.

 

I would do that... I looked into it about 6months ago before I bought my timesert kit.
I used to have the ARP part number here somewhere..........sorry, cant find it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TooManyTickets &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats a strange thing to do even if it fits fine a used sleeve is going to have different wear caracteristics(spelling?)than the one it going to replace. You are going to hone out this used sleeve, right?

infact scratch that just buy a new sleeve and hone it out to the proper size and save yourself the trouble of anything going wrong</TD></TR></TABLE> honing =/= boring

 

Man I wish I could remember the name there is / was a thread repair out there that looked a lot like the timesert kit, except it had 4 pins on the end. Once you threaded it in place there was a tool that you put over the pins and drove them down. Driving the pins down cut through the tapped threads and locked the thread repair in place. The only way for it to back out was to rip the threads out with the insert.

Edit: Here is what I was thinking of.
http://news.thomasnet.com/companystory/523785
http://www.jergensinc.com/pres...ID=26

Modified by instructor74 at 1:14 PM 8/27/2007


Modified by instructor74 at 1:19 PM 8/27/2007


Modified by instructor74 at 1:20 PM 8/27/2007

 

If you really want to move sleeves from one block to another it might cost you more money then moving up to the 1/2 inch studs. Also to keep the sleeves in tac theyll have to destory the outer shell i would imagine because theres no way to press them out again.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drtysohc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> honing =/= boring </TD></TR></TABLE>
after carfull consideration of your post heres my response

If you are implying that Honing a block and Boring a block are the same thing, then i feel inclined to smack you

 

Line through the middle usually means not the same. or not equal.

 

why make it so confusing... with 2 equals signs and all....blah

plz use proper symbols... thats why we have them (Honing ≠ Boring)


Modified by TooManyTickets at 8:43 PM 8/27/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TooManyTickets &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why make it so confusing... with 2 equals signs and all....blah </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nothing better to do?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drtysohc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> honing =/= boring </TD></TR></TABLE>


boring actullay is recutting to a bigger size, honing is running a really fine grain sand paper (but dosent look like sand paper, looks like a stick with a bunch of little ***** of sandpaper sticking off of it) but it is to put a finish on the walls cause a good crosshatch pattern is better for compression, also cause after boring the walls are not anywhere close to smooth and would chew up rings faster then anything.

but if I was you I would just retap with bigger size.. probally alot cheaper then getting a new block but may want to talk to professionals on new torque spec.