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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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Default quick question on trannyfor b16 and b18b civic type r

I have a b16a jdm of course sir2 um the question is would I be able to get a b16b tranny and put it on my engine would I be able to lets say have a civic type r and no not a integra type r or do I have to get the block/tranny?


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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slayerfromhell212 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a b16a jdm of course sir2 um the question is would I be able to get a b16b tranny and put it on my engine would I be able to lets say have a civic type r and no not a integra type r or do I have to get the block/tranny?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The B16B or any other hydraulic B series FWD transmission will work. Except one from a prelude.

So basically any 92-00 civic and 94-01 integra B series trans will work.

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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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if you just want to use the trans than yes, you can just swap them out.
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Yes true but the real thing that I want is to get more power since the head from a b16 is a well a type r head and yes I know there not the same cams
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slayerfromhell212 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes true but the real thing that I want is to get more power since the head from a b16 is a well a type r head and yes I know there not the same cams</TD></TR></TABLE>

well a B16B trans is geared pretty much the same as a B16A. But it has an LSD.

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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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Yes I do have lsd on my I got it for free so in other words if I get it would it be a waste of money by getting the blockwith tranny

And thx for your help u are being very helpfull
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slayerfromhell212 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes I do have lsd on my I got it for free so in other words if I get it would it be a waste of money by getting the blockwith tranny

And thx for your help u are being very helpfull </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah no problem...but im not quite sure what you're asking. Could you try to word that better maybe?
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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As in um making my **** close to being a type r even doh I know I won't be able to make it like that I know that to make a poor man type r u need a gsrblock and a b16 head
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slayerfromhell212 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As in um making my **** close to being a type r even doh I know I won't be able to make it like that I know that to make a poor man type r u need a gsrblock and a b16 head</TD></TR></TABLE>

i still dont know wtf you're saying. english please.
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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making your car as powerful as a stock CTR is a pretty low goal and should be easily attained.

what does a CTR dyno stock? 160-165whp? you can do that on the stock block.

my advice? turbo
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iVteC_PoWeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">making your car as powerful as a stock CTR is a pretty low goal and should be easily attained.

what does a CTR dyno stock? 160-165whp? you can do that on the stock block.

my advice? turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>


lol why does everything come down to turboing it?
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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well dude. If you're building a poor man's type R, then go with the B16A trans. It's close to the 97 spec ITR trans. 4.4 Final drive and nice low gearing. The difference is that the B16A trans has a low 4th and 5th while the ITR has a slightly higher 4th and 5th to keep crusing RPMS down.

But it's not a big deal. Use the B16A trans. It's an AWESOME all motor trans.
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slayerfromhell212 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes true but the real thing that I want is to get more power since the head from a b16 is a well a type r head and yes I know there not the same cams</TD></TR></TABLE>

Screw the cams, it's an entirely different block.

The B16A uses a diff block than the B16B/B18C (CTR/ITR).

Slapping a CTR transmission on it and CTR cams is not going to make it a CTR.

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Even if the B16A and the B16B did use the same block (which I'm pretty sure they don't), you'd have to move the crank/piston/rod assembly over, and slap a CTR head on it.
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Screw the cams, it's an entirely different block.

The B16A uses a diff block than the B16B/B18C (CTR/ITR).

Slapping a CTR transmission on it and CTR cams is not going to make it a CTR.

EDIT:
Even if the B16A and the B16B did use the same block (which I'm pretty sure they don't), you'd have to move the crank/piston/rod assembly over, and slap a CTR head on it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're right about the blocks. The CTR head is the same as the ITR/B16A head casting, though.

I think the original question was about transmissions. I'm not sure how it progressed to discussion about heads, cams...blocks....iduno.

OP: Sorry dude. But I just dont understand the question. I'm not trying to be rude, but if you could maybe word your sentences better....and maybe use some punctuation. A comma, period...anything!! lol. I dont get what you're trying to ask. I got the part about the transmissions, but now im not sure what you're relating your later questions to.
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 12:43 AM
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Ok I want power and yes I know I need internals, I want to be close or beyond the power of a jdm gsr my bro has a jdm gsr with skunk2pro mani and tb with injen cold air I would love to be near its power or even more and if you know what kind of internal I may need get to boost my engine plz tell me money I have but not very sure on what to get on internal I know that I may get some cams,valves,drive train,etc.... and if so tell me the brands that you think are best for my engine b16a sir2
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slayerfromhell212 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok I want power and yes I know I need internals, I want to be close or beyond the power of a jdm gsr my bro has a jdm gsr with skunk2pro mani and tb with injen cold air I would love to be near its power or even more and if you know what kind of internal I may need get to boost my engine plz tell me money I have but not very sure on what to get on internal I know that I may get some cams,valves,drive train,etc.... and if so tell me the brands that you think are best for my engine b16a sir2 </TD></TR></TABLE>

well....you could do some mild cams like CTR or ITR cams, use the CTR/ITR valve train. Get an intake manifold, some bolt ons, and you're set. A JDM GSR is what? 180hp? JDM B16A is at 170hp. You simply cant match the B18's torque band with an NA B16A, though. Torque is where your motor will be lacking.

Although, my friend had a pretty well modded ITR swap in his EK (no PS, no AC no cat). VAFC, Lightened flywheel, clutchmasters clutch, AEM V2, Vibrant header, RS-R EXMAG, Chipped P28. His was a 97 CX hatch

I had a B16A with skunk2 manifold, Dc header, ebay CAI, Custom 2.25'' exhaust with vibrant muffler (freaking too loud), I kept my cat because I'm an air breather, VAFC. I kept my PS and AC. Mine was a 99 DX hatch.

He would beat me off the line, but when we raced from a 45mph roll (both in VTEC), We were dead even till like 75mph or so. Then he slowly pulled away.

If you get a B16 cranked, it makes awesome power. Especially over the GSR ...since the B16A head will flow better. Just work on the motor's strengths. Tune for high end. Dont worry about the low end, because you will NEVER get it.
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