help!! my EP is way too low,,,, picutures inside!!
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help!! my EP is way too low,,,, picutures inside!!
Ok, my gf's 03 EP is way too low for a daily driver, especially when we going over the speed bumps. It scrap the hell out the botton. So, can anyone recomend which spring that is not too low and rides descent? btw, the springs she is got right now is some no name after market brand. PS. if you can post a picture of your set up it will be perfect.
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Modified by civictyper96 at 10:30 PM 8/22/2007
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id be more worried about getting a new front bumper...then new springs<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NTCustoms »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you call that low? lol just learn to drive over speedbumps at an angle.</TD></TR></TABLE> 
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Re: help!! my EP is way too low,,,, picutures inside!! (civictyper96)
i tried to drive around speed bumps and some time u just can't avoid them. i am tired of doing that all the time.
so, can anyone give me real advice on which set of spring i should go with.
so, can anyone give me real advice on which set of spring i should go with.
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are you serious. I have seen numerous ep's a lot lower.
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Re: help!! my EP is way too low,,,, picutures inside!! (jdm5lughatch)
Can we help out the OP with other choices of springs?
For instance, these lower the car a moderate amount, and in turn you'll actually get better handling than the folks who slam their cars.
1) Tein S-techs
2) Honda HFP kit
3) Mugen SS kit
Anyone else have something to add? I would not recommend sleeved coilovers either...you're just asking for noises.
For instance, these lower the car a moderate amount, and in turn you'll actually get better handling than the folks who slam their cars.
1) Tein S-techs
2) Honda HFP kit
3) Mugen SS kit
Anyone else have something to add? I would not recommend sleeved coilovers either...you're just asking for noises.
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Re: help!! my EP is way too low,,,, picutures inside!! (Todd00)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can we help out the OP with other choices of springs?
For instance, these lower the car a moderate amount, and in turn you'll actually get better handling than the folks who slam their cars.
1) Tein S-techs
2) Honda HFP kit
3) Mugen SS kit
Anyone else have something to add? I would not recommend sleeved coilovers either...you're just asking for noises.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You will get noises from most adjustable coilover setups. It has to do with the metal on metal contact. I ran Ground Controls on an old subaru and I only got noises when I would hit a certain bridge and the spring would slam back down into place. However, if you wrap the lower coil with coiled wire loom it prevents that from happening.
Also, any coilover with pillowballs is going to make noises. I would have suggested not going with sleeve type coilovers unless you plan on replacing the shocks/struts with something that has a shorter shaft stroke. However, then by the time you get that setup you could have still gotten fully adjustable coilovers for about the same price.
If you are looking for just a good spring you can't go wrong with Eibach pro-kit or sportlines. Tein S & H Tech springs are just garbage. That's my opinion based on experience.
However, out of the options listed above the Mugen SS' are the best choice. I would go Buddy Club though.
For instance, these lower the car a moderate amount, and in turn you'll actually get better handling than the folks who slam their cars.
1) Tein S-techs
2) Honda HFP kit
3) Mugen SS kit
Anyone else have something to add? I would not recommend sleeved coilovers either...you're just asking for noises.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You will get noises from most adjustable coilover setups. It has to do with the metal on metal contact. I ran Ground Controls on an old subaru and I only got noises when I would hit a certain bridge and the spring would slam back down into place. However, if you wrap the lower coil with coiled wire loom it prevents that from happening.
Also, any coilover with pillowballs is going to make noises. I would have suggested not going with sleeve type coilovers unless you plan on replacing the shocks/struts with something that has a shorter shaft stroke. However, then by the time you get that setup you could have still gotten fully adjustable coilovers for about the same price.
If you are looking for just a good spring you can't go wrong with Eibach pro-kit or sportlines. Tein S & H Tech springs are just garbage. That's my opinion based on experience.
However, out of the options listed above the Mugen SS' are the best choice. I would go Buddy Club though.
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Re: help!! my EP is way too low,,,, picutures inside!! (jdm5lughatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm5lughatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You will get noises from most adjustable coilover setups. It has to do with the metal on metal contact. I ran Ground Controls on an old subaru and I only got noises when I would hit a certain bridge and the spring would slam back down into place. However, if you wrap the lower coil with coiled wire loom it prevents that from happening.
Also, any coilover with pillowballs is going to make noises. I would have suggested not going with sleeve type coilovers unless you plan on replacing the shocks/struts with something that has a shorter shaft stroke. However, then by the time you get that setup you could have still gotten fully adjustable coilovers for about the same price.
If you are looking for just a good spring you can't go wrong with Eibach pro-kit or sportlines. Tein S & H Tech springs are just garbage. That's my opinion based on experience.
However, out of the options listed above the Mugen SS' are the best choice. I would go Buddy Club though.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Most of the time sleeved-coilovers are fine, but on the EP3/RSX they have some issues on the front struts.
I can't speak about the Teins on other applications, but don't generalize their entire line as the Tein Springs work *very* well on the EP3/RSX. The have, by far, the best springrate for this chassis of any off-the-shelf spring. Fit is OEM-like too.
But with any spring, it is recommended to buy new shocks along with them. But I still contend that a spring/shock combo is better for the EP3/RSX than a fully adjustable coilover for a daily driven car.
You will get noises from most adjustable coilover setups. It has to do with the metal on metal contact. I ran Ground Controls on an old subaru and I only got noises when I would hit a certain bridge and the spring would slam back down into place. However, if you wrap the lower coil with coiled wire loom it prevents that from happening.
Also, any coilover with pillowballs is going to make noises. I would have suggested not going with sleeve type coilovers unless you plan on replacing the shocks/struts with something that has a shorter shaft stroke. However, then by the time you get that setup you could have still gotten fully adjustable coilovers for about the same price.
If you are looking for just a good spring you can't go wrong with Eibach pro-kit or sportlines. Tein S & H Tech springs are just garbage. That's my opinion based on experience.
However, out of the options listed above the Mugen SS' are the best choice. I would go Buddy Club though.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Most of the time sleeved-coilovers are fine, but on the EP3/RSX they have some issues on the front struts.
I can't speak about the Teins on other applications, but don't generalize their entire line as the Tein Springs work *very* well on the EP3/RSX. The have, by far, the best springrate for this chassis of any off-the-shelf spring. Fit is OEM-like too.
But with any spring, it is recommended to buy new shocks along with them. But I still contend that a spring/shock combo is better for the EP3/RSX than a fully adjustable coilover for a daily driven car.
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that looks like the perfect height imo. any lowered car will have problems with bumps and ****, learn how to drive a lowered car. go over speedbumps on an angle and same goes for pulling into any steep inclines
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Re: help!! my EP is way too low,,,, picutures inside!! (Todd00)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Most of the time sleeved-coilovers are fine, but on the EP3/RSX they have some issues on the front struts.
I can't speak about the Teins on other applications, but don't generalize their entire line as the Tein Springs work *very* well on the EP3/RSX. The have, by far, the best springrate for this chassis of any off-the-shelf spring. Fit is OEM-like too.
But with any spring, it is recommended to buy new shocks along with them. But I still contend that a spring/shock combo is better for the EP3/RSX than a fully adjustable coilover for a daily driven car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
They (tein) springs may work well on the RSX at first but they sag. They have sagged on every application I have used them on. They also have a tendency to blow shocks/struts a lot faster than most. IMHO and all based on my experiences Eibach, Swift, and H&R springs are about the best you can get for stock components. I personally prefer Eibach over most.
As for Spring and Shock combo being best for daily driver. That all depends on the driver. Depends on what they are looking to get outta their setup. I like a stiff suspension setup because I drive my car hard on the streets. Some people might like a softer setup so a spring with a mild drop like the Eibach pro-kit might be all they are looking for. Some want it as low as they can go but still want that stock ride. That's a hard task to accomplish.
Most of the time sleeved-coilovers are fine, but on the EP3/RSX they have some issues on the front struts.
I can't speak about the Teins on other applications, but don't generalize their entire line as the Tein Springs work *very* well on the EP3/RSX. The have, by far, the best springrate for this chassis of any off-the-shelf spring. Fit is OEM-like too.
But with any spring, it is recommended to buy new shocks along with them. But I still contend that a spring/shock combo is better for the EP3/RSX than a fully adjustable coilover for a daily driven car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
They (tein) springs may work well on the RSX at first but they sag. They have sagged on every application I have used them on. They also have a tendency to blow shocks/struts a lot faster than most. IMHO and all based on my experiences Eibach, Swift, and H&R springs are about the best you can get for stock components. I personally prefer Eibach over most.
As for Spring and Shock combo being best for daily driver. That all depends on the driver. Depends on what they are looking to get outta their setup. I like a stiff suspension setup because I drive my car hard on the streets. Some people might like a softer setup so a spring with a mild drop like the Eibach pro-kit might be all they are looking for. Some want it as low as they can go but still want that stock ride. That's a hard task to accomplish.
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Re: help!! my EP is way too low,,,, picutures inside!! (jdm5lughatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm5lughatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
They (tein) springs may work well on the RSX at first but they sag. They have sagged on every application I have used them on. They also have a tendency to blow shocks/struts a lot faster than most. IMHO and all based on my experiences Eibach, Swift, and H&R springs are about the best you can get for stock components. I personally prefer Eibach over most.
As for Spring and Shock combo being best for daily driver. That all depends on the driver. Depends on what they are looking to get outta their setup. I like a stiff suspension setup because I drive my car hard on the streets. Some people might like a softer setup so a spring with a mild drop like the Eibach pro-kit might be all they are looking for. Some want it as low as they can go but still want that stock ride. That's a hard task to accomplish.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Any non-OEM lowering spring is going to 'blow' the OEM shocks. The OEM shocks on the EP3/RSX/01-05 Civic chassis are inferior compared to what Honda usually puts on their cars.
The Tein springs are setup more for handling and not so much daily comfort. This is why the springrate is spot-on (and a little stiffer than the rest) for the chassis. And with this, you will need aftermarket shocks. But with any lowering spring you're going to need aftermarket shocks sooner or later.
I have never experienced sagging with the Tein springs. I've seen other complaints of sagging with brands, but never from the EP3/RSX Teins.
They (tein) springs may work well on the RSX at first but they sag. They have sagged on every application I have used them on. They also have a tendency to blow shocks/struts a lot faster than most. IMHO and all based on my experiences Eibach, Swift, and H&R springs are about the best you can get for stock components. I personally prefer Eibach over most.
As for Spring and Shock combo being best for daily driver. That all depends on the driver. Depends on what they are looking to get outta their setup. I like a stiff suspension setup because I drive my car hard on the streets. Some people might like a softer setup so a spring with a mild drop like the Eibach pro-kit might be all they are looking for. Some want it as low as they can go but still want that stock ride. That's a hard task to accomplish.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Any non-OEM lowering spring is going to 'blow' the OEM shocks. The OEM shocks on the EP3/RSX/01-05 Civic chassis are inferior compared to what Honda usually puts on their cars.
The Tein springs are setup more for handling and not so much daily comfort. This is why the springrate is spot-on (and a little stiffer than the rest) for the chassis. And with this, you will need aftermarket shocks. But with any lowering spring you're going to need aftermarket shocks sooner or later.
I have never experienced sagging with the Tein springs. I've seen other complaints of sagging with brands, but never from the EP3/RSX Teins.
perfect height IMO, i think she is probably going too fast on speed bumps. i recommend neuspeed sports, probably the same height if not higher, and a great ride quality .
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Re: help!! my EP is way too low,,,, picutures inside!! (civictyper96)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can we help out the OP with other choices of springs?
For instance, these lower the car a moderate amount, and in turn you'll actually get better handling than the folks who slam their cars.
1) Tein S-techs
2) Honda HFP kit
3) Mugen SS kit
Anyone else have something to add? I would not recommend sleeved coilovers either...you're just asking for noises.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Have you ever used springs on stock shocks? The S-techs are the same drop. I had them on my ep with stock shocks and the handling and height was horrible. The drop on those springs was exacly the same as the ones he has now. The handling was not better than stock barely. I had better tires though with the springs so that could have been why it was slightly better. Who knows but if you want springs atleast get some good shocks. KYB makes a decent shock for the ep.
For instance, these lower the car a moderate amount, and in turn you'll actually get better handling than the folks who slam their cars.
1) Tein S-techs
2) Honda HFP kit
3) Mugen SS kit
Anyone else have something to add? I would not recommend sleeved coilovers either...you're just asking for noises.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Have you ever used springs on stock shocks? The S-techs are the same drop. I had them on my ep with stock shocks and the handling and height was horrible. The drop on those springs was exacly the same as the ones he has now. The handling was not better than stock barely. I had better tires though with the springs so that could have been why it was slightly better. Who knows but if you want springs atleast get some good shocks. KYB makes a decent shock for the ep.
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Re: help!! my EP is way too low,,,, picutures inside!! (BoBoChan)
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No, it was an option. Get over it.
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