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Old Jun 13, 2002 | 02:05 PM
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So, I tried getting the pulley bolt off with my impact wrench, but my compressor is pretty weak. 120 psi is all it'll run, which is fine for most repairs. Anyway, I can't get it off with that, and when I try doing it with a breaker bar, I can't get the damn thing to not turn. I tried putting a screw driver through the holes on the pulley, and it just bent the screw driver. Not really in the mood to drive it (it's badly cracked) to a near by shop to have em pop a bolt off...

This is on a 93 del sol S...
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Old Jun 13, 2002 | 02:06 PM
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Default Re: timing belt/crank shaft pulley... (Bakeoff)

what is the torque rating on your impact gun
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Old Jun 13, 2002 | 02:30 PM
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I think it's about 200, but with this compressor I can only get about 130 max... I can crank harder with a normal 1/2 inch ratchet...
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Old Jun 13, 2002 | 04:55 PM
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Default Re: timing belt/crank shaft pulley... (Bakeoff)

thats the prob right there, you need AT LEAST a 400ftlbs gun. If you can't afford a decent impact right now, all you can do is...

spray it down w/ some penetrating oil, get a stronger screwdriver, and keep on going for it with the breaker bar.
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Old Jun 13, 2002 | 06:12 PM
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Ok, here's the problem now... I tried sticking a screw driver in the pulley to keep it from spinning, bent the screw driver. Tried a grade 8 bolt, bent that too. I know I was putting about 200 lbs of torque on it (I may not be a huge guy, but with the leverage I had, it was about 200) and it still wouldn't break. The bolt I had holding the pulley actually cracked the pulley where the ac belt goes... I went and got a new compressor, and I looked, the impact wrench is rated up to 375... So now what? I've got another engine that was going to be swapped in later sitting in my garage. I'm thinking of pushing the swap up, and just running with the wrong ecu until I find the right one. I have one, but it's for an auto... Any other suggestions?
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Old Jun 13, 2002 | 06:36 PM
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Well, if you've got the time, you can take off the tranny and have someone hold the flywheel in place. If you've got an aftermarket flywheel with holes in it. you can take the flywheel cover off and hold that in place. If you know somebody that does a lot of work on hondas, they might have the crank pulley tool. Which is a huge allen key on a stick with a hole in the middle to remove pulleys with.

Last case, worst case scenario, have somebody hold the brakes while the car is in gear in reverse, then try to pop it off. But that hardly ever works.

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Old Jun 13, 2002 | 06:37 PM
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you need a crank pulley tool like the moroso unit. I made a couple several months ago but sold them all. I may make another batch if you are interested.
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Old Jun 13, 2002 | 08:20 PM
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the weird thing is that this pulley isn't like all the others I've seen on D series engines. It doesn't have the hex opening. It's just open. If I had a digital camera, I'd take a picture to show you. This is on a d15... The d1z6 I have in my garage has the hex, so I'm just confused as hell. I might try that flywheel trick. I'm starting to understand why they charge 400 to do a timing belt... Thanks for the suggestions, but keep em coming! THANKS!
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Old Jun 14, 2002 | 12:42 AM
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The best way to get these off is keep doing what your doing but "shock" the pulley. Dont just "stand" on the breker bar, you basically need to jupm on it.Use penetrating oil like someone else said, or WD-40 works just fine.And good luck.
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Old Jun 14, 2002 | 01:48 AM
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I did what Plan B said, but I used 5th gear. Start around the 1 or 2 o'clock position because it'll flex a little before giving.


[Modified by dchu, 10:50 AM 6/14/2002]
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Old Jun 14, 2002 | 01:59 AM
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we spent a long time trying to take the pulley of my friends zc. we had a long *** wrench with a 3 foot pipe on that making it about 5 ft long and couldnt get it off for days, even after soaking it. so i took off the pipe and i was just wailing on the wrench and then one time it just loosened. i thought i had broken it. we held the crank still be sticking a screwdriver in the teeth and clamped that to the block with the vice grips, that held it perfectly. it just takes time.....and a serious gorilla beating.
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Old Jun 14, 2002 | 05:52 AM
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Remove the clutch access cover and stick a scewdriver in the teeth of the flywheel. Since the flywheel has such a large diameter, you have a better "mechanical advangtage" than you do trying to pin the pulley itself.
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Old Jun 14, 2002 | 06:06 AM
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Would that not damage the teeth on the flywheel?
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Old Jun 14, 2002 | 06:09 AM
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Would that not damage the teeth on the flywheel?
Nope. That's the method that my shop manual recommends. I've used it to remove the crank pulley and to break the flywheel bolts loose. Like a charm!
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Old Jun 14, 2002 | 07:55 AM
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Thank you guys all for the help. I'm gonna start whaling on it again today. Got sick of it last night, and just drank beer and ate pizza. If your friends can't help you work on your car, they can at least help you put down a case of beer!
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