Mugen Twin Loop opinions please (pretty pleeese!!)
Ok I just found out from my supplier that Apexi is no longer making the RS exhaust I have on order. To make up for it I've been offered the Mugen twin loop for a reasonable price of $1700 (~US$970).
This is an "Australian" supplier so please dont tell me I'm being ripped off (I already know I am!), or that I can get it cheaper at <insert name> Racing in Kentucky or something (because shipping will kill me).
Unfortunately I do not have the luxury of time to look through 100+ exhaust posts.
I've already spent a **** load on a crap sounding exhaust and $1700 is a lot to pay - I do NOT want to get it wrong this time.
I'd like to ask several very specific questions about the exhaust ... please answer them if you can.
I'm primarily after a quiet exhaust that does not drone or intrude into the cabin too much ... I've been burnt before!! I know that it does not flow as well as an N1 or spoon or whatever but I have minimal mods and my cars primarily used for daily driving.
Most importantly what does it sound like?
Does it have a puttery or airy sound?
Does it drone inside the cabin?
Will it give me headache after 10 mins of driving?
Is it quiet enough to hear the intake?
Does it fit well (or am I likely to need it modified to fit)?
Thanks to anyone that can help ... and thanks to anyway to anyone that cant.
Mike
This is an "Australian" supplier so please dont tell me I'm being ripped off (I already know I am!), or that I can get it cheaper at <insert name> Racing in Kentucky or something (because shipping will kill me).
Unfortunately I do not have the luxury of time to look through 100+ exhaust posts.
I've already spent a **** load on a crap sounding exhaust and $1700 is a lot to pay - I do NOT want to get it wrong this time.
I'd like to ask several very specific questions about the exhaust ... please answer them if you can.
I'm primarily after a quiet exhaust that does not drone or intrude into the cabin too much ... I've been burnt before!! I know that it does not flow as well as an N1 or spoon or whatever but I have minimal mods and my cars primarily used for daily driving.
Most importantly what does it sound like?
Does it have a puttery or airy sound?
Does it drone inside the cabin?
Will it give me headache after 10 mins of driving?
Is it quiet enough to hear the intake?
Does it fit well (or am I likely to need it modified to fit)?
Thanks to anyone that can help ... and thanks to anyway to anyone that cant.
Mike
Unfortunately, I've never heard it in person, but . . . .
If you're looking to save some money, just get the axle-back (muffler) & some generic mandrel bends. Then have a local muffler shop rig it up for you. Should save at least a couple hundred (USD), and it will perform & sound just as good as the "real" thing.
If you're looking to save some money, just get the axle-back (muffler) & some generic mandrel bends. Then have a local muffler shop rig it up for you. Should save at least a couple hundred (USD), and it will perform & sound just as good as the "real" thing.
I currently am running the "axle-back" system for my EG.
1) With cat in place, the exhaust has hardly any sound what so ever. It is unbelievably quiet. I can't exaggerate that at all. It is hardly louder then stock. No lie.
2)With cat removed, my car sounds like a freaking crotch rocket. VTEC is nice and loud, but not painful. It is a very pleasant sound to here. Around 3000, the noise is kinda loud...and for daily driving simply annoying. It is not painfully loud at this point, just an annoying "waaaaaaaa" sound. But other then the resonance at 2500-3200rpm it sounds wonderful.
My setup is a b16a, custom straight pipe cat replacement, and a gsr mid pipe bolted up to the Mugen twinloop.
I highly recommend this exhaust. It has none of that stupid ricey sound with annoying stuff. Get it! This exhaust OWNZ!
And fit was great. no problems.
[Modified by WAFFLES, 12:13 PM 6/13/2002]
1) With cat in place, the exhaust has hardly any sound what so ever. It is unbelievably quiet. I can't exaggerate that at all. It is hardly louder then stock. No lie.
2)With cat removed, my car sounds like a freaking crotch rocket. VTEC is nice and loud, but not painful. It is a very pleasant sound to here. Around 3000, the noise is kinda loud...and for daily driving simply annoying. It is not painfully loud at this point, just an annoying "waaaaaaaa" sound. But other then the resonance at 2500-3200rpm it sounds wonderful.
My setup is a b16a, custom straight pipe cat replacement, and a gsr mid pipe bolted up to the Mugen twinloop.
I highly recommend this exhaust. It has none of that stupid ricey sound with annoying stuff. Get it! This exhaust OWNZ!
And fit was great. no problems.
[Modified by WAFFLES, 12:13 PM 6/13/2002]
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