All Motor / Naturally Aspirated No power adders

M22x vs Blox HSL vs Blueprint 2 cams

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:58 AM
  #1  
hondaboyB18C1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 384
Likes: 0
From: Nova Scotia ,Canada
Default M22x vs Blox HSL vs Blueprint 2 cams

my setup is a B20B bored to 84.50mm & decked .007"
wiesco pistons
Probe "I" beam rods
polished crank
ported , polished , flowed B16 head(stock valves back cut)
milled .020"
68 mm tb
comptech shortram intake( now has Iceman cold air)
knock off Hytech production tri-Y header
M22X Rocket cams (M24X on order)
Supertech springs and retainers
H22 345cc injectors
P28 running crome
sheetmetal intake (now has Skunk 2 Pro series)
stock ignition , fuel pump , fuel rail
2.25 exhaust
Skunk 2 pro cam gears
Greddy timing belt
Built , Tuned & abused by myself


I dynoed the 3 above cams in my B20 vtec on a Dynojet. The smaller M22x cams took out both othe r sets in whp and tourque. i will psot up the graphs later , the numbers were 225/150 sae, more tunning could have been used but each cam was given a fair chance.on the graphs you will also see the rocket cams were tested in 20 degrees F hotter

Rocket cams

I am getting M24x cams next

M22x vs Blox HSL
[IMG][/IMG]

M22x vs Blueprint stage 2
[IMG][/IMG]

Modified by hondaboyB18C1 at 3:06 PM 8/15/2007


Modified by hondaboyB18C1 at 10:05 PM 8/15/2007


Modified by hondaboyB18C1 at 10:08 PM 8/15/2007


Modified by hondaboyB18C1 at 10:17 PM 8/15/2007


Modified by hondaboyB18C1 at 11:45 PM 9/4/2007


Modified by hondaboyB18C1 at 11:46 PM 9/4/2007


Modified by hondaboyB18C1 at 11:47 PM 9/4/2007
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 11:13 AM
  #2  
00Red_SiR's Avatar
All Motor Mentor
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,987
Likes: 1
From: 902, Nova Scotia, Canada
Default Re: M22x vs Blox HSL vs Blueprint 2 cams (hondaboyB18C1)

Interesting results Shawn, I know I'm really liking my M22x's. Bruce and I are supposed to be doing some fine tuning this weekend and then I'll be Dynoing FINALLY next week to get some numbers. What's this motor going in?
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:50 AM
  #3  
hondaboyB18C1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 384
Likes: 0
From: Nova Scotia ,Canada
Default Re: M22x vs Blox HSL vs Blueprint 2 cams (00Red_SiR)

Graph's are up top is M22x vs Blox HSL , bottom is M22x vs Blueprint stage 2
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:54 AM
  #4  
b20beast978's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,701
Likes: 0
From: Eastern, Ma, USA
Default

big ups to rocket motorsports!
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 04:54 AM
  #5  
IntegraType-R's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,725
Likes: 0
From: Baton rouge, LA, USA
Default

wonder how the m22x's would perform vs my s2s2's on my 11.8 itb c5
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 06:20 AM
  #6  
Teamdiesel's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,838
Likes: 1
From: St. Georges, Antigua
Default

what are the other mods on that engine setup?
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 06:30 AM
  #7  
jaydmdude's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
From: Kato
Default Re:

looks like the m22x and the blueprint one has pretty much the same primaries man..the vtec profile is way different. Rocket
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 10:18 AM
  #8  
UncleD's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 8,465
Likes: 4
From: GO PACKERS
Default Re: Re: (jaydmdude)

Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 11:27 AM
  #9  
hondaboyB18C1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 384
Likes: 0
From: Nova Scotia ,Canada
Default Re: Re: (jaydmdude)

this is a comparision on my engine , tuned by myself. remember every setup will act differently to each set of cams


Modified by hondaboyB18C1 at 11:57 AM 8/25/2007
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 11:42 AM
  #10  
Teamdiesel's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,838
Likes: 1
From: St. Georges, Antigua
Default

bump, what were the supporting mods on this setup?
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 04:28 PM
  #11  
hondaboyB18C1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 384
Likes: 0
From: Nova Scotia ,Canada
Default Re: (Teamdiesel)

my setup is a B20B bored to 84.50mm & decked .007"
wiesco pistons
Probe "I" beam rods
polished crank
ported , polished , flowed B16 head(stock valves back cut)
milled .020"
68 mm tb
comptech shortram intake
knock off Hytech production header
M22X Rocket cams (did have Blox HSL & Blueprint cams)
Supertech springs and retainers
H22 345cc injectors
P28 running crome
sheetmetal intake with velocity stacks (trying Performer X soon )
stock ignition , fuel pump , fuel rail
2.25 exhaust
Skunk 2 pro cam gears
Greddy timing belt

Built , Tuned & abused by myself
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 05:20 PM
  #12  
96Spec Ek's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 579
Likes: 3
From: Long Island, NY
Default Re: (hondaboyB18C1)

Not to be an ******* but on the first graph the two runs were on different days. The temperature difference was 20 degrees cooler and the humidity was 24% less on the run which made more power. The second sheet I can't really read but it is also on different days where conditions where not the same. Nice power but not a very accurate comparison between the cams.
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 07:50 PM
  #13  
B18cHatch06's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 411
Likes: 0
From: Ft.Lauderdale, Florida, U.S.A
Default Re: (96Spec Ek)

you have it all wrong..the 1 that made more power was on a hotter day with more humidity
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2007 | 03:00 AM
  #14  
hondaboyB18C1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 384
Likes: 0
From: Nova Scotia ,Canada
Default Re: (B18cHatch06)

it wasn't a hotter day , I live in Nova Scotia it was a misty night from cool fog
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2007 | 12:50 PM
  #15  
Rocket's Avatar
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,765
Likes: 1
Default Re: (hondaboyB18C1)

Do you understand SAE correction? If you don't please educate yourself.

SAE Correct will not equal (emphasis added for clarity) Un-corrected (actuall) unless conditions such as temp, baro and humitidy are at standard SAE levels.
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2007 | 12:57 PM
  #16  
Rocket's Avatar
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,765
Likes: 1
Default Re: (Master of the Universe)

So on different days the motor makes more power after a certain rpm and the same power before that certain rpm?

Sorry, I wasn't going to post here as it is not really my place but had I have to correct some whacked-*** logic/ill-logic.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:27 AM
  #17  
hondaboyB18C1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 384
Likes: 0
From: Nova Scotia ,Canada
Default Re: (Master of the Universe)

the cams landed the same result order in whp SAE & UNCORECTTED


Modified by hondaboyB18C1 at 11:59 AM 8/25/2007
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2007 | 03:42 PM
  #18  
hondaboyB18C1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 384
Likes: 0
From: Nova Scotia ,Canada
Default Re: (hondaboyB18C1)

M24X cams comming soon
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2007 | 04:50 PM
  #19  
98vtec's Avatar
moderator emeritus
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 16,357
Likes: 6
From: Cantonment, FL
Default Re: (hondaboyB18C1)

please add your complete setup to the first post. I am adding this to the faq
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2007 | 09:26 PM
  #20  
UncleD's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 8,465
Likes: 4
From: GO PACKERS
Default Re: (98vtec)

Bump for "Chillinit"
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2007 | 07:46 AM
  #21  
Rollo Lawson's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,036
Likes: 0
From: T Dot
Default Re: (clean rice)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bump for "Chillinit" </TD></TR></TABLE>

who cares, loser. Chillinit has no problem with Rocket or his products, its u, moron. bump, so that Chillinit can tell u where to go. Jackass. u had very little knowledge, if any about cam design, ramp speeds, lift, duration, lobe thickness...nothing when i pm'd u. chillinit is a designer, and u are a internet salesman thats talks out of his ***.


Modified by Rollo Lawson at 12:03 PM 9/2/2007
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2007 | 08:41 AM
  #22  
UncleD's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 8,465
Likes: 4
From: GO PACKERS
Default Re: (Rollo Lawson)

Wow, didn't realize you knew me so well guy!

I have no recollection of a conversation with you via pm, but whatever....have a nice day.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2007 | 08:59 AM
  #23  
mtber's Avatar
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 48,168
Likes: 3
From: Tampa, FL
Default Re: (clean rice)

Another thing you may want to do is note which run is what cam setup i.e. run 24 = rm cams...
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2007 | 09:01 AM
  #24  
mtber's Avatar
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 48,168
Likes: 3
From: Tampa, FL
Default Re: (hondaboyB18C1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaboyB18C1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
wiesco pistons
</TD></TR></TABLE>

What is your estimated compression ratio ?
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2007 | 09:56 AM
  #25  
b20vtech's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,526
Likes: 0
From: usa
Default Re: M22x vs Blox HSL vs Blueprint 2 cams (hondaboyB18C1)

whats ur compression ratio on this motor?
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:00 AM.