Which set of tire should I get??
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Which set of tire should I get??
I have a 94 civic with gsr fat five. I need to get some new tire, but can't decided which one. I have only $250 for the tire. Should I buy it from ebay or local shop?? Which one should I buy from ebay??
By the way, I live in San Francisco, so not much rain in here.
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By the way, I live in San Francisco, so not much rain in here.
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all of those are junk. buy them from http://www.tirerack.com or http://www.discounttiredirect.com
the kumho ecsta spt is the general consensus around here. if you can't get that, the yokohama avs es100 is very good, but the treadwear i'm seeing is nowhere near what i'm told i should be getting.
the kumho ecsta spt is the general consensus around here. if you can't get that, the yokohama avs es100 is very good, but the treadwear i'm seeing is nowhere near what i'm told i should be getting.
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Originally Posted by alexisthemovie
all of those are junk. buy them from http://www.tirerack.com or http://www.discounttiredirect.com
the kumho ecsta spt is the general consensus around here. if you can't get that, the yokohama avs es100 is very good
the kumho ecsta spt is the general consensus around here. if you can't get that, the yokohama avs es100 is very good
100 percent.
Right now Discount Tire has the Kumho SPT in 205/50-15 for $71, and in 195/55-15 for $73. (Our cars can use either size). That's with free shipping. And right now (through Friday) they give $25 off on internet purchases. So your total is $259 or $267. Great deal on an excellent tire, not the crappy tires you asked about.
If you don't get the SPT, another tire I would consider, in addition to the ES100, is the Fuzion ZRi.
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the treadwear i'm seeing is nowhere near what i'm told i should be getting.
As I just posted in another topic here, a few days ago:
Originally Posted by nsxtasy
Roughly 90 percent of the time, people fall into one of the following three categories:
a. People who want the maximum traction on dry pavement, and don't care about anything else. These are usually people who sometimes use their street tires in autocross or on the racetrack or in brisk drives on curvy roads. The best tire for such folks IMHO is usually the Falken Azenis RT-615, which is available in Integra sizes of 195/60-14, 205/50-15, 215/45-16, and 205/40-17, depending on your wheel size. These tires don't last all that long - treadlife of 10-12K miles is typical - and they are only so-so in rain. But if you only care about dry grip, they're the bomb.
b. People who want good traction on dry pavement, but also want good traction in rain and also care about value (purchase price and/or treadlife), and who DON'T use these tires in snow (either it doesn't snow where they live, or they have separate tires or another vehicle for winter conditions). These are usually people who use their tires for everyday driving. The tires I most often recommend for these folks are the Kumho SPT and the Avon Tech M500, which are available in Integra sizes of 195/55-15, 205/50-15, 205/45-16, and 205/40-17. I recommend the Yokohama ES100 in 195/60-14 for those with 14" wheels. All of these tires have very good grip on dry pavement, are excellent in rain, and last a reasonably long time (25-40K miles).
c. People who need to use the same tires in snow during the winter as well as in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year. These folks need all-season tires, which are a compromise; they have the flexibility to be used in a wider range of weather, but they're not as good in winter as true winter tires and they're not as good the rest of the year as summer tires such as those mentioned above. For these folks, I recommend the Kumho ASX in 195/55-15, 205/50-15, 205/45-16, and 205/40-17. For those with 14" wheels, I recommend the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position in 195/60-14.
All of these tires are reasonably priced, and are the best you can get for your money in each of these categories, IMHO. You can get them shipped from places like Tire Rack, Discount Tire (whose higher prices are offset by free shipping), and Vulcan Tire.
a. People who want the maximum traction on dry pavement, and don't care about anything else. These are usually people who sometimes use their street tires in autocross or on the racetrack or in brisk drives on curvy roads. The best tire for such folks IMHO is usually the Falken Azenis RT-615, which is available in Integra sizes of 195/60-14, 205/50-15, 215/45-16, and 205/40-17, depending on your wheel size. These tires don't last all that long - treadlife of 10-12K miles is typical - and they are only so-so in rain. But if you only care about dry grip, they're the bomb.
b. People who want good traction on dry pavement, but also want good traction in rain and also care about value (purchase price and/or treadlife), and who DON'T use these tires in snow (either it doesn't snow where they live, or they have separate tires or another vehicle for winter conditions). These are usually people who use their tires for everyday driving. The tires I most often recommend for these folks are the Kumho SPT and the Avon Tech M500, which are available in Integra sizes of 195/55-15, 205/50-15, 205/45-16, and 205/40-17. I recommend the Yokohama ES100 in 195/60-14 for those with 14" wheels. All of these tires have very good grip on dry pavement, are excellent in rain, and last a reasonably long time (25-40K miles).
c. People who need to use the same tires in snow during the winter as well as in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year. These folks need all-season tires, which are a compromise; they have the flexibility to be used in a wider range of weather, but they're not as good in winter as true winter tires and they're not as good the rest of the year as summer tires such as those mentioned above. For these folks, I recommend the Kumho ASX in 195/55-15, 205/50-15, 205/45-16, and 205/40-17. For those with 14" wheels, I recommend the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position in 195/60-14.
All of these tires are reasonably priced, and are the best you can get for your money in each of these categories, IMHO. You can get them shipped from places like Tire Rack, Discount Tire (whose higher prices are offset by free shipping), and Vulcan Tire.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
With either the Kumho SPT or Yokohama ES100, you should be able to get 25-40K miles, easy (assuming you're not doing burnouts or doing a lot of autocrossing on them). On our last set of ES100 on the GS-R, we had over 40K miles on them, and they were not yet worn down to the treadwear indicator bars (although they were getting close).
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You say this, but the Yokohama has a 280 treadwear rating which isn't very good. My friend has a set of Toyo T1R on his Mazda Rx-8 and we are both seeing similar tread wear which is fast. I will be lucky to get 20k out of this set.
I understand that you speak from experience but, I'm just relaying what I'm seeing. And, it's not like I'm doing smoking burnouts, daily canyon runs, or autocrossing on these. I take a quick corner here and there and have maybe one canyon run a month.
I just think that you should post your driving style and conditions when you give out that 40k number. That's all.
And just to make clear, I am very happy with my set of es100's and will definitely recommend to others (my friend already got a set).
With either the Kumho SPT or Yokohama ES100, you should be able to get 25-40K miles, easy (assuming you're not doing burnouts or doing a lot of autocrossing on them). On our last set of ES100 on the GS-R, we had over 40K miles on them, and they were not yet worn down to the treadwear indicator bars (although they were getting close).
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You say this, but the Yokohama has a 280 treadwear rating which isn't very good. My friend has a set of Toyo T1R on his Mazda Rx-8 and we are both seeing similar tread wear which is fast. I will be lucky to get 20k out of this set.
I understand that you speak from experience but, I'm just relaying what I'm seeing. And, it's not like I'm doing smoking burnouts, daily canyon runs, or autocrossing on these. I take a quick corner here and there and have maybe one canyon run a month.
I just think that you should post your driving style and conditions when you give out that 40k number. That's all.
And just to make clear, I am very happy with my set of es100's and will definitely recommend to others (my friend already got a set).
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thatwhiteguy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fuzion HRi's are pretty good and cheap. </TD></TR></TABLE>
No, they're okay all-season tires. If you need to use your tires in snow, you can get the Kumho ASX all-season for the same money and it's much better in every way. And if you don't need to use them in snow, the summer tires we're talking about here are much better still.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alexisthemovie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You say this, but the Yokohama has a 280 treadwear rating which isn't very good.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Anyone who knows anything about tires, knows that treadwear ratings shouldn't be compared between brands, that they are rarely accurate, and that you shouldn't put much faith in them.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alexisthemovie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My friend has a set of Toyo T1R on his Mazda Rx-8 and we are both seeing similar tread wear which is fast. I will be lucky to get 20k out of this set.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Again, just because a Toyo T1-R has a 280 treadwear rating, means absolutely nothing in comparison with a tire from another brand.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alexisthemovie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just think that you should post your driving style and conditions when you give out that 40k number.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Brisk, enthusiastic driving style, mixed city and highway miles, no burnouts or track time, pressures checked regularly, tires rotated regularly (front to back only), car is properly aligned, tires used from new until replaced with an average of 3/32" of tread depth (before the treadwear bars were flat across).
That doesn't mean everyone will get that mileage. That's why I usually tell people to expect 25-40K miles from the ES100. But for all I know, maybe some people get even more miles than I do. I can tell you that that's what I got, on a bone stock '94 GS-R, driving it from 101K to 152K on the odo (I kept track of the odo readings whenever I swapped tires, and subtracted out the 11K miles driven on winter tires during that period).
I don't know why you're so upset about what I said, especially since I was so obviously being conservative by telling people a range of miles in which MY treadlife was the TOP of the range I quoted. I didn't claim that everyone is going to get 40K to a set. But I know for a fact that it's possible.
No, they're okay all-season tires. If you need to use your tires in snow, you can get the Kumho ASX all-season for the same money and it's much better in every way. And if you don't need to use them in snow, the summer tires we're talking about here are much better still.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alexisthemovie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You say this, but the Yokohama has a 280 treadwear rating which isn't very good.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Anyone who knows anything about tires, knows that treadwear ratings shouldn't be compared between brands, that they are rarely accurate, and that you shouldn't put much faith in them.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alexisthemovie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My friend has a set of Toyo T1R on his Mazda Rx-8 and we are both seeing similar tread wear which is fast. I will be lucky to get 20k out of this set.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Again, just because a Toyo T1-R has a 280 treadwear rating, means absolutely nothing in comparison with a tire from another brand.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alexisthemovie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just think that you should post your driving style and conditions when you give out that 40k number.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Brisk, enthusiastic driving style, mixed city and highway miles, no burnouts or track time, pressures checked regularly, tires rotated regularly (front to back only), car is properly aligned, tires used from new until replaced with an average of 3/32" of tread depth (before the treadwear bars were flat across).
That doesn't mean everyone will get that mileage. That's why I usually tell people to expect 25-40K miles from the ES100. But for all I know, maybe some people get even more miles than I do. I can tell you that that's what I got, on a bone stock '94 GS-R, driving it from 101K to 152K on the odo (I kept track of the odo readings whenever I swapped tires, and subtracted out the 11K miles driven on winter tires during that period).
I don't know why you're so upset about what I said, especially since I was so obviously being conservative by telling people a range of miles in which MY treadlife was the TOP of the range I quoted. I didn't claim that everyone is going to get 40K to a set. But I know for a fact that it's possible.
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just got ahold of a set of falken zeix ze 912's and i love em!! got em for $57 each off edgeracing.com with 15 in bronze falken hanabi wheels. very sticky and great in rain!! 
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mustanghunter »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just got ahold of a set of falken zeix ze 912's and i love em!! got em for $57 each off edgeracing.com with 15 in bronze falken hanabi wheels. very sticky and great in rain!! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Again. All-season tires like the ZE-912 are compromise tires. They are designed for people who have to use the same tires in snow and frigid cold that they use in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year. The compromise is that they sacrifice performance for greater flexibility; they're okay in winter (not as good as true winter tires, but better than summer tires) and they're okay the rest of the year (not as good as summer tires though). If that's your situation in Colorado - if you need to use the same tires in winter as the rest of the year - then you need all-season tires. However, in moderate to warm temperatures, including rain as well as on dry pavement, good summer tires will give MUCH better performance than all-season tires. That's why someone in San Francisco, where it never snows, or someone in a cold climate, who has a separate set of winter tires (or another vehicle) to use in winter, is almost always better off getting summer tires than all-season tires. That's also why people in places where where there is winter weather, like Chicago, and Boston, and Denver, people who care about performance and don't want to make that compromise, get a spare set of wheels, and use one set with winter tires in winter, and the other set with summer tires in summer.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Again. All-season tires like the ZE-912 are compromise tires. They are designed for people who have to use the same tires in snow and frigid cold that they use in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year. The compromise is that they sacrifice performance for greater flexibility; they're okay in winter (not as good as true winter tires, but better than summer tires) and they're okay the rest of the year (not as good as summer tires though). If that's your situation in Colorado - if you need to use the same tires in winter as the rest of the year - then you need all-season tires. However, in moderate to warm temperatures, including rain as well as on dry pavement, good summer tires will give MUCH better performance than all-season tires. That's why someone in San Francisco, where it never snows, or someone in a cold climate, who has a separate set of winter tires (or another vehicle) to use in winter, is almost always better off getting summer tires than all-season tires. That's also why people in places where where there is winter weather, like Chicago, and Boston, and Denver, people who care about performance and don't want to make that compromise, get a spare set of wheels, and use one set with winter tires in winter, and the other set with summer tires in summer.
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I understand the comprimise issue, but I've got to vouch for the 912's as well. I actually had a set of the 512's that were new and couldnt get them balanced. they just didnt feel planted and felt very soft. the 912's are a HUGE improvement overall. A much more square shoulder, and firmer sidewall.
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$250 is not much to get tires with considering youd also have to pay for mounting and balancing. also if you want the road hazard warranty.
even if you went to Discount Tire and got lets say a $60 tire which is pretty damn cheap it totals to $240+tax+mounting and balancing which WILL equal to over $300. Buying online will save the tax but youd still have to pay for shipping and handling.
even if you went to Discount Tire and got lets say a $60 tire which is pretty damn cheap it totals to $240+tax+mounting and balancing which WILL equal to over $300. Buying online will save the tax but youd still have to pay for shipping and handling.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iVteC_PoWeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$250 is not much to get tires with considering youd also have to pay for mounting and balancing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, you will have to pay for mounting and balancing, typically $10-20 per tire. Some tire shops do that free when you buy the tires there, but the prices are higher so you're usually better off buying them over the 'net.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iVteC_PoWeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also if you want the road hazard warranty.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Which is usually NOT worth it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iVteC_PoWeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">even if you went to Discount Tire and got lets say a $60 tire which is pretty damn cheap it totals to $240+tax+mounting and balancing which WILL equal to over $300. Buying online will save the tax but youd still have to pay for shipping and handling.</TD></TR></TABLE>
When you buy tires from Discount Tire's website, they have free shipping. They also have $25 off internet orders this week.
Yes, you will have to pay for mounting and balancing, typically $10-20 per tire. Some tire shops do that free when you buy the tires there, but the prices are higher so you're usually better off buying them over the 'net.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iVteC_PoWeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also if you want the road hazard warranty.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Which is usually NOT worth it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iVteC_PoWeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">even if you went to Discount Tire and got lets say a $60 tire which is pretty damn cheap it totals to $240+tax+mounting and balancing which WILL equal to over $300. Buying online will save the tax but youd still have to pay for shipping and handling.</TD></TR></TABLE>
When you buy tires from Discount Tire's website, they have free shipping. They also have $25 off internet orders this week.
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Just bought 4 Kumho SPT from DiscountTire, free shipping + $25 + no tax and fxxk the road hazard warranty, total = $269. I know I need mounting and balancing, that's why I said I'm looking to spend about $250 on tire.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pkdog167 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just bought 4 Kumho SPT from DiscountTire, free shipping + $25 + no tax and fxxk the road hazard warranty, total = $269. I know I need mounting and balancing, that's why I said I'm looking to spend about $250 on tire. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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