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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Default OMNI POWER _ quick clutch is it worth it???

I was curious about this upgrade it is suppost to shorten the cluth throw by 50%,

also what is the deal with the SS(braided lines) tranny line is it for looks or do they burst....?? I seen a couple of people say they had the ss instead of the stock rubber one...?
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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Got a link to the product? I'm not sure what you're talking about.

As far as SS lines go, IMO they aren't a good idea for anyone's daily driver.

The braids will actually hold moisture, then rust, then deteriorate the lines.

Not good.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As far as SS lines go, IMO they aren't a good idea for anyone's daily driver.

The braids will actually hold moisture, then rust, then deteriorate the lines.

Not good.</TD></TR></TABLE>

err...? You do know that SS lines are only SS on the outside right? Inside is still tubing (either nylon or rubber depending on the size). The SS on the outside helps prevent the hose to expand or explode. SS is way better then the stock ones because the stock ones can expand and you loose your stock pressure.

Also its kind of hard to make SS rust unless you take all the properties off it.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">err...? You do know that SS lines are only SS on the outside right? Inside is still tubing (either nylon or rubber depending on the size). The SS on the outside helps prevent the hose to expand or explode. SS is way better then the stock ones because the stock ones can expand and you loose your stock pressure.

Also its kind of hard to make SS rust unless you take all the properties off it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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your car is too slow for SS Billy , jp

yeah, that kit is awesome and FYI good ss lines have a silicone coating on the outside that keep the dirt and moisture off them
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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The Quiklutch has been discontinued until Omni redesigns it. Too many people have had seals go out within days after installation.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also its kind of hard to make SS rust unless you take all the properties off it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I can show you stainless steel parts on my uncle's boat that have rusted since he's had it. Not to mention my Stainless helmet that has some rust in the small scratches.

Endyn, and a couple local shops have insisted that I not use SS brake lines on my daily for said reasons. Overkill for a daily driver even if it's occasionally tracked on the weekends.

I know the purpose of SS lines, I had them on my old car before I sold it. The change in brake feel wasn't worth the money I spent and the risk of corroding the line.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrev1987 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and FYI good ss lines have a silicone coating on the outside that keep the dirt and moisture off them</TD></TR></TABLE>

And FYI, said lines have little use on a daily or anyone capable of using their brakes to the potentiality of bursting a line or losing brake pressure due to expanding lines.

Not to mention they're expensive for what they do.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 05:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I can show you stainless steel parts on my uncle's boat that have rusted since he's had it. Not to mention my Stainless helmet that has some rust in the small scratches.

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Thats because the sea water breaks up the properties and your scratches break the properties. If you get Stainless and sand it down it will rust. Thats what i meant by you take off its properties.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 05:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats because the sea water breaks up the properties and your scratches break the properties. If you get Stainless and sand it down it will rust. Thats what i meant by you take off its properties. </TD></TR></TABLE>

precisely, and wouldn't the elements out brake lines and clutch lines are exposed to wear out the stainless properties?

I.E. Salt water from the snowy season in the north.

Constant dirt/sand and grime buildup
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 06:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I can show you stainless steel parts on my uncle's boat that have rusted since he's had it. Not to mention my Stainless helmet that has some rust in the small scratches.

Endyn, and a couple local shops have insisted that I not use SS brake lines on my daily for said reasons. Overkill for a daily driver even if it's occasionally tracked on the weekends.

I know the purpose of SS lines, I had them on my old car before I sold it. The change in brake feel wasn't worth the money I spent and the risk of corroding the line.


And FYI, said lines have little use on a daily or anyone capable of using their brakes to the potentiality of bursting a line or losing brake pressure due to expanding lines.

Not to mention they're expensive for what they do.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you dont know what your talking about......

I AM RUNNING A FULL SS BRAIDED CLUTCH LINE

im using aeroquip's high pressure braided line whcih is pressure tested to over 3000psi, it feels better and more reponsive than the stock hardlines did.

i know a guy who even used this ss line that went from his mc to his proportioning valve and then to his front brakes, it still hasn't had a problem even to this day, (its been in hci as well, seach for user pandahatch)
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 06:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkankyEJ7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you dont know what your talking about......

I AM RUNNING A FULL SS BRAIDED CLUTCH LINE</TD></TR></TABLE>

Aw, I'm disheartened.

People are entitled to their own opinions man. Don't have a cow. I had ss brake lines, and made the decision it wasnt worth it. I've never tried a SS clutch line, maybe in the future I will. i was just giving my opinion like the OP asked.

Seems like every time I give my opinion people bash on my for giving mis-info on something that's OPINIONATED.

Take a chill pill, share your opinion without trying to compare e-dicks.

You could have just said "I have a SS clutch line and it's worked flawlessly for me for years, I recommend them."

And That would have resolved/avoided this entirely.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

err...? You do know that SS lines are only SS on the outside right? Inside is still tubing (either nylon or rubber depending on the size). The SS on the outside helps prevent the hose to expand or explode. SS is way better then the stock ones because the stock ones can expand and you loose your stock pressure.

Also its kind of hard to make SS rust unless you take all the properties off it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah,

Temperature and pressure have a direct correlation, the more pressure you put on a brake system, the hotter the brake fluid gets. Brake fluid begins to break down from the heat and expand until eventually, it expands the rubber tubing. This is why the pedal is spongy after you have a hard emergency stop. This is also why better brake fluid is exactly that - better - it breaks down at a higher temperature, has more resistance.

Stainless steel braids on the outside prevents the lines from expanding, keeping the pressure there even when the fluid is heated, it takes a lot more pressure to crack steel. They keep the "firm pedal" feel there.

As for your quick clutch - no clue what you're talking about.

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This post is about 10 hours too late, I typed it at like 1:30 last night, but for some reason I never hit "post" - so uhhh, I'ma hit that now...next day...at 11a...
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkankyEJ7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you dont know what your talking about......

I AM RUNNING A FULL SS BRAIDED CLUTCH LINE

im using aeroquip's high pressure braided line whcih is pressure tested to over 3000psi, it feels better and more reponsive than the stock hardlines did.

i know a guy who even used this ss line that went from his mc to his proportioning valve and then to his front brakes, it still hasn't had a problem even to this day, (its been in hci as well, seach for user pandahatch)</TD></TR></TABLE>

dont bother with these 2 idiots syndicate and ek foerver they think the stock cars are the fastest and quickest cars ever, they havent been in nor have seen, nor have built a car even close to the power of a weak d16z6-t car its patehtic, i suggst nobody take their info, well people like them take their info and thats how bullshit spreads, ricers like these 2 haha
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Andd you've been around for how long?

Less than a month...



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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BEYAAAH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Andd you've been around for how long?

Less than a month...

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lol must mean i cant do anything with car
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k powered ej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


lol must mean i cant do anything with car </TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't give a **** if you can turn a Honda into a Ferrari, To make statements that make you look like a total douche-nozzle of uninformed proportions makes you.....well...a douche-nozzle.

Hope you enjoy the rest of your uninformed day
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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haha you're the one who links being on a forum to mechanical knowledge, haha
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k powered ej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha you're the one who links being on a forum to mechanical knowledge, haha </TD></TR></TABLE>

Please point out where I stated that? In any of my posts here...EVER.

You stated some apparent facts about two members on here and bashed them for it?

And I called you out because you probably don't know **** about either of them. Where does mechanics come into play again? Sorry I forgot ...

But I'm done with this pissing match...Your a dumbass...
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k powered ej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont bother with these 2 idiots syndicate and ek foerver they think the stock cars are the fastest and quickest cars ever, they havent been in nor have seen, nor have built a car even close to the power of a weak d16z6-t car its patehtic, i suggst nobody take their info, well people like them take their info and thats how bullshit spreads, ricers like these 2 haha </TD></TR></TABLE>

You contribute nothing to this forum.

1) I've never ever said my car is fast. It's 90% stock.
2) How do you know what i've driven and haven't driven? my brothers dc2 gsr makes 170whp
3) You're an idiot, a lot of people can vouch for my information and how helpful I am.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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ive got earls stainless steel one single clutch line from the master cyl-slave cyl with a exedy stage 1 and it feels great ive been daily driving it since about 250 - 300 a week
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BEYAAAH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Please point out where I stated that? In any of my posts here...EVER.

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sure

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BEYAAAH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Andd you've been around for how long?

Less than a month...

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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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You are all a bunch of douche dumpsters and turn every thread into an argument.

To the OP most of the time parts like these arent worth the money you have to pay for them. See if you can google the product and find some reviews.
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Look at me in every thread....WOOO
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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there is different formulations of stainless some more corrosion resistant than others.. I don't know what they use on brake lines, but the inside hose is teflon which is unaffected by moisture the stainless is only there for abrasion resistance
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gtlaw1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is different formulations of stainless some more corrosion resistant than others.. I don't know what they use on brake lines, but the inside hose is teflon which is unaffected by moisture the stainless is only there for abrasion resistance</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's good. That means they've changed since I had them. I'll probably consider buying them again taking that into consideration.
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