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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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Thunderhill Race Report – August 11th-12th 2007

This past weekend we had a great turnout for NorCal H1. 14 drivers showed up to race @ Thunderhill.

The K-Series powered cars of Andrie Hartanto and Michael Lee showed up. Michael is usually a SoCal racer who decided to join us up north for some good H1 racing.

Neil Vanni also made it back out with his always beautiful H1 Civic Si. Neil had fought over heating problems @ Infineon. He was hoping for better results at Thunderhill.

Midnight 2 and Jimmy Chilcott raced in H1 with H4 spec setups. Bob Gill drove his D16A6 ultra super light CRX in H1

Jonathon Meris showed up for Saturday with his 4dr blue civic but with an unusual motor. Meris is still waiting for his B-Series VTEC motor to be rebuilt, so he used a stock non-VTEC B18B for this weekend.

Mike Lock & Brian Z came out in the green Del sol with a new limited slip diff and gearbox. Finally they will be able to put all that H22A torque to the ground.

Rookies Devin Raynal & Dave Wright made it to T-Hill to battle it out once again. Devin made minor changes since last time out @ Infineon. He arrived with fresh wheel bearings and new lower control arm bushings. Dave debuted his new Calculated Risk front splitter & rear wing.

Midnight Performance cars showed up with some fancy colored Rota RB’s. Derek Welch & Robert Arguelles showed up just as they were @ Infineon. Welch even ran on the same corded tires for a few sessions

New comers AutoSport Garage showed up with their #7 Civic hatchback. Well known driver Dave Brown was there again to pilot the green civic as he did @ Infineon. AutoSport brought their car up to spec by adding the correct amount of weight for their 1.8l engine.

Saturday’s race saw Mike Lock on Pole with Hartanto a very close second. Neil Vanni seemed to have overcome his over heating problems and gridded up third. Dave Wright’s new aerodynamic aids seemed to have helped as he lined up 4th. Midnight and Raynal followed with Derek Welch in 7th. The rest of the order was #4 Gill, #79 Midnight, #47 Meris, #59 Arguelles, #13 Chilcott. Michael Lee started second to last due to an off & broken trailing arm during qualifying. Dave Brown started last because his missed qualifying.

#22 Mike Lock had a great start and led the class into the first corner. He was followed by Andrie, Vanni, Raynal, Wright, Welch & Lee. Mike Lock pulled out a good lead and won the race. Vanni overheated and had to retire. Hartanto finished 2nd, but was DQ’d because of some contact with a Spec Miata. Midnight 1 had an ECU issue and retired. Brown drove thru the field very quickly and finished 3rd. He inherited 2nd due to Hartanto’s DQ.

Finishing Order.
1. #22 Team Goto
2. #7 AutoSport – Dave Brown
3. # 6 Devin Raynal
4. #14 Derek Welch
5. #40 Dave Wright
6. #2 Michael Lee
7. #59 Robert Arguelles
8. #47 J. Meris
9. #79 Midnight 2
10. #4 Bob Gill
11. #13 Jimmy Chilcott
12. #28 Midnight 1
13. #46 Vanni
DQ - #1 Hartanto

Sunday saw a few less drivers. Meris went home after Saturday’s race. Wright broke his clutch during a TT session after Saturday’s race. Vanni overheated and only made Sunday practice before packing up and going home.

Hartanto got pole for Sunday’s race followed by Brown and then Brian Z in the H22A Del Sol. Welch, Raynal, Lee and Midnight filled the next two rows.

Brian Z had terrible luck and popped his motor on the 2nd lap. Bad luck for the GOTO guys. Andrie & Brown had a great race. Brown followed Andrie coming out of turn 15 and was able to pass him and the end of the straight and thru turn 1.

Full course caution came out on lap 7 which bunched the whole field up. On the restart Brown and Andrie pulled away. Andrie was able to get back around Brown and win the race. Michael Lee finished 3rd but was DQ’d for an unknown reason. Welch and Raynal were having a great race before the yellow came out. During the yellow they were separated by an RX7 and SpecE30. When the green came out Devin was blocked by both the rx7 and bmw in turn 1 and turn 6. It ruined the chance for a great finish between Derek and Devin.

Sunday’s Race Results

1. #1 Hartanto
2. #7 AutoSport – Dave Brown
3. #14 Derek Welch
4. # 6 Devin Raynal
5. #28 Midnight 1
6. #79 Midnight 2
7. #13 Jimmy Chilcott
8. #59 Robert Arguelles
9. Bob Gill
10. #22 Team Goto
DQ - #2 Michael Lee

We had a great weekend. Ton’s of fun and a great time racing with everyone. Thanks for everyone’s help and advice. See everyone at the seasons’ end race at Thunderhill.

Pics will be up later as soon as i find my camera.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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Pictures, in-car video and race report can be found on my website too. http://www.prima-racing.com
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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good report graham.. sorry i didn't recognize ya..
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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This past weekend also showed that any engine can be competitive. Dave Brown's B16 proved it!

What's scary is, the car is new and they are still sorting it out. With about 300 lbs lighter, the car should be able to out-brake and out-handle my car in no time.

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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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great video Andrie it was very cool to see someone running a b16. I would have never thought one would be competetive.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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Mike,
did you get to install the MyChron?

Some teaser pictures:
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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That is a awesome picture!!

Yeah I got it mostly hooked up I still have to do the speed sensor, and the beacon sensor deal. I have not got to test it yet because I broke a axle and am changing that out and found a bad wheel bearing and hub in the process so I am going threw all of that stuff now.

But I'm fully determined to be racing next year I just got my driving suit in last night. I'm going to my competetion lincensing school this friday so will see how it goes. (wish me luck)

I won't be back out on the track in my car until october 27-28 at Infineon It sucks that the Honda challenge season will be over by then.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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For the speed sensor, don't use their sensor. Just splice it into stock one.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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Are you guys running the Mychron Gold units that are used in Karting? Looked like those from a picture I saw of the unit in Andrie's car.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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I use MyChron XGLog for Auto.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ekim952522000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">great video Andrie it was very cool to see someone running a b16. I would have never thought one would be competetive.</TD></TR></TABLE>

quick correction. its a b18 not a b16.

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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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good ****!
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andrie Hartanto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I use MyChron XGLog for Auto.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just got the MyChron Gold Auto... I cant wait to get it up and running
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ahhh sorry b18 then
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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good video..
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .1type. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good video.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow, no H4 class in Norcal. I guess SoCal has the H4 market cornered.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Johnny Mac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Wow, no H4 class in Norcal. I guess SoCal has the H4 market cornered.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Naah, we norcal guys just like to go fast. SoCal guys like to talk fast

Where is that California dude? I thought he did a blistering lap at Willow Springs last weekend.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andrie Hartanto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Naah, we norcal guys just like to go fast. SoCal guys like to talk fast

Where is that California dude? I thought he did a blistering lap at Willow Springs last weekend. </TD></TR></TABLE>

He's around somewhere lurking. Yeah, he ran a 1:28.5 in practice and a 1:30.5 in the race breaking the four year old track record by well over a second. There's going to be a showdown at the Nats this year - I see it coming.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Johnny Mac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

He's around somewhere lurking. Yeah, he ran a 1:28.5 in practice and a 1:30.5 in the race breaking the four year old track record by well over a second. There's going to be a showdown at the Nats this year - I see it coming. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nationals will be fun. Less than a month away.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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1:28.5 at Willow Springs in an H1 Car....Wow.
What kind of power is that car making? It must be amazing driving as well. that is fast for ANYTHING on that track. That's like 1 second off the pace of the SU vipers...Manny Coates, etc.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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Depending on which dyno you go to. But typical K24 setup will be aorund 200 to 220 whp on a dynojet.

HASPORT car has to weigh at 2525 lbs minimum weight. On Toyo to boot.

Told you that H1 car is fast.

Over the weekend Dave Brown was turning 2:01 at Thunderhill with his B18 powered car.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andrie Hartanto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Depending on which dyno you go to. But typical K24 setup will be aorund 200 to 220 whp on a dynojet.

HASPORT car has to weigh at 2525 lbs minimum weight. On Toyo to boot.

Told you that H1 car is fast.

Over the weekend Dave Brown was turning 2:01 at Thunderhill with his B18 powered car.

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Don't forgot TORQUE and Motons FTW!
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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I know the cars are fast...It will be an intersting learning curve for me, but I cannot wait to get out there. I am starting to see that my CRX can be competitive in TTA for time trial once I learn how to drive the car. It never ceases to amaze me how many people wax lyrical about how "no real racecar can be FWD" and the continual development of these Hondas puts that theory to death contunually!
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Johnny Mac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Wow, no H4 class in Norcal. I guess SoCal has the H4 market cornered.</TD></TR></TABLE>

there are still 2 h4 cars that run up here on a regular basis. I ran and have been running H1 because there are no other H4 car. the other H4 car (dc integra) only runs h1. By running H1 i can (on some weekends) race with the slower H1 cars, and not be racing out of class.

It turned out to be great this past weekend as both Saturday and Sunday i had great battles with 2-3 other H1 cars.

I know for 100% sure that i wont be doing anything to my car that takes it out of the h4 class, and i don't think the DC integra will either. there is another car that is almost done that will be coming out soon too.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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i hope everyone sticks around for 2008.

My dad & I are lisence testing @ Infineon September 22/23.

My red EG civic (b16 154whp.. yes its really a 1.6l, not a 1.8) is built to h2 specs. My dad is going to drive that next year. It should give some of the slower h1 cars and h4 cars another car to battle with.

I should be driving my white eg civic. As soon as i decide which motor to use.
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