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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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Default Alignment = no bueno.. Camber kit needed. halp?

Took my car to get aligned today, and the guy at the shop says he cant get my camber and toe any better then it is.

currently its:

-2 3/4 on the driver side
-2 5/8 on the passenger side

and about 1" of toe

Obviously I need to look into a camber kit, being lowered 3" it was only a matter of time.

Now comes to buying one though. I just need it for the rear. I dont have a TON of money to spend (so nothing over $100 if possible), but what kit should I look for? Do any of them offer anything else the other doesnt? I dont even know what brands make camber kits.

If anyone can please make a couple of suggestions that would be appreciated
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Not to be a dick or anything, but why in the world would you drive around lowered that much???
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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Because it looks good, and my roads arent really shitty, so the car can handle it.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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I honestly know nothing about camber, or many suspension parts for that matter. its my weakest area when it comes to cars, so with what i've said, would this kit allow for my camber to be corrected (or at least within spec)

https://www.matrixracing.com/p....aspx

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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nothing wrong with being low

but i cant beleive your alignment guy cant even get youe toe straight
im lowered maybe the same and have 0 toe all around
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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obviously im a retard, but would these work better?

http://www.hopupracing.com/nefr25re25an.html

im just so clueless, excuse me.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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*edit: those would help for toe not camber. *

1st. There is more adjustment.
2nd Prolly stronger.
3rd Lighter?

Search Hawkze's thread on a similar product. I think if its good enough for him its good enough for me.


Modified by M@ at 10:37 PM 8/14/2007
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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to my understanding....those dont adjust camber
they adjust toe only
and when you get those...you now have 2 ways to adjust your toe...
1. offset bolt on the inner toe rod end..
2. megan toe rods

get adjustible anchor bolts to adjust dont camber
dont get cheap ones because most are poorly made...
i would stick to genuine ingalls
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SnlpeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to my understanding....those dont adjust camber
they adjust toe only
and when you get those...you now have 2 ways to adjust your toe...
1. offset bolt on the inner toe rod end..
2. megan toe rods

get adjustible anchor bolts to adjust dont camber
dont get cheap ones because most are poorly made...
i would stick to genuine ingalls</TD></TR></TABLE>
sorry, your right. I didn't read anything, I just noticed someone had mentioned toe, then I see that picture.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SnlpeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nothing wrong with being low

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I agree. But there is a point where low gets too low, and not only does it ruin your car's handling but it also ruins certain parts of your suspension as well as tires.

The lower the car = the better the handling &lt;-----

If he's doing it for looks only, and not for functionality, then it's fine I guess. But if this car is daily driven then it just doesn't make sense and I must say it's a bad choice.

But what do I know... I'm only an inch higher.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Well it is low enough to go under a trailer, I've got that picture I took where its sitting under one. but I like it the way it is, and im willing to spend the money needed to keep it this low while still maintaining my tire tread from wearing evenly.

i guess ignalls camber kit it is.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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what are you lowered on for 3 inches?
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TylerC161 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well it is low enough to go under a trailer, I've got that picture I took where its sitting under one. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well if that ain't the greatest accomplishment in the history of car lowering then I don't know what is!!!
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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^^^ wait i thought that was everyones goal

lol
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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Im not saying it like a ricer would. Its not like im saying "hey man im gonna ****** cruise under this semi like fast and the furious", im using that for COMPARISON to show how low it is.

Im dropped an estimated 3" on groundcontrol coilovers. Front perch's are all the way down just starting to tuck my 17's, and the rears are about 80% down to the lowest.

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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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how do you get over speed bumps. Lowering my car is the reason why I had to replace my oil psn.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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uhhhhhhhh......

wellll..

I avoid them at ALL costs.. lol.

The several times I've HAD to go over them (some of which were DOOOOOZY let me tell ya) didnt end up feeling too good for the chassis, but its okay.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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And far as being back on topic, I checked out Hawkze's thread, and he seemed to approve.

now with the numbers I listed above as my camber/toe ect, seeing as the rear toe arms only adjust toe, will I be fine with that? I just want to know if the megan toe links will allow for the 1" adjustment I need of toe.. But as far as camber, Im still f'ed, unless that wont matter with a toe zero'ed out. I have no idea.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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Your custom 3" exhaust doesn't help either, Mr. Walkie Talkie.

Go with Ingalls, everyone raves about them for a reason. While you are getting the rears, you might as well splurge on the front set as well. It would look a little goofy having severe negative camber on your front end only.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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thats whats wierd, front has NO problems with camber right now. They aligned just fine. In fact, the front tires still have about 90% tread left (been driving on them for 3 months). the rear tires WERE new 3 months ago, but then got DESTROYED by my camber/toe issue and popped. I just got 2 new tires on the rear and I dont want to drive on them til I get this fixed.

Honest opinion (asking everyone here): Whats better?
Ignalls rear camber kit
megan toe bars

looks like both will fix my problem, they're about the same price, which would you pick?

The ricer inside me wants to pick the toe bars because they look bling blingy, they save weight, and they're strong.

the other side is saying just get what you need, forget about toe bars for now.

ehh ehh? well? yes, no? lol
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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My honest suggestion - raise it up a bit, then get corner weight and alignment done. You may not even need a camber kit after that.

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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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my car is low as hell cuz i bought it that way but i think it looks great but it handles like a hippo on ice i hate it


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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TylerC161 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats whats wierd, front has NO problems with camber right now. They aligned just fine. In fact, the front tires still have about 90% tread left (been driving on them for 3 months). the rear tires WERE new 3 months ago, but then got DESTROYED by my camber/toe issue and popped. I just got 2 new tires on the rear and I dont want to drive on them til I get this fixed.

Honest opinion (asking everyone here): Whats better?
Ignalls rear camber kit
megan toe bars

looks like both will fix my problem, they're about the same price, which would you pick?

The ricer inside me wants to pick the toe bars because they look bling blingy, they save weight, and they're strong.

the other side is saying just get what you need, forget about toe bars for now.

ehh ehh? well? yes, no? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Diao &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> It would look a little goofy having severe negative camber on your front end only. </TD></TR></TABLE>

nothing wrong with that...
i had camber kits on all corners...
but recently removed the front for more neg camber
i left the rear camber kits on tho
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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Ah, I guess having negative camber in the front would be beneficial when on the track.

Man, I love those GT3s on your car...
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