So I've pretty much ruled out a swap. Unless something turns up within a week or so.

I've got a pretty much all stock 96 sol. As far as performace mods go.

Rockin' the D16Y7 under the hood.

So what ALL could I possibly do to improve my acceleration?

I wanna be able to rape face right out of the gate, or just while i'm drivin' around be able to drop it into 4th and feel like my car is being riped out from under me.

Budget is around 4Gs


So where should I start?



Modified by Xathine at 10:40 AM 8/14/2007

 

Turbo.

 

-.-

I'd like my car to last longer then a few miles =D

 

ok. then have someone with a brain install and tune it. turbo doesnt mean ur gona blow up your motor. i.e. an evo or sti. they last more than a few miles

 

it will last a long time if tuned properly....for 4gs, id def say boost it

 

ls swap and boost for ~4 gs'.

 

turbo or supercharger installed by a professional
and since u have enough budget for a nice b swap.
why dont u do a b swap.

 

Alright, I'll look into a turbo a little more, recomendations?

 

slap a vtec head on that beast!!!!!

 

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and since u have enough budget for a nice b swap.
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Not having any luck finding one locally, and my mechanic said it wouldn't be as practical - being how I drive this car daily, wouldn't be worth the investment.

 

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Not having any luck finding one locally, and my mechanic said it wouldn't be as practical - being how I drive this car daily, wouldn't be worth the investment.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bah thats bullshit. I drove two different swapped Civic's as daily drivers. One with a B16 and the other with a B18C5.

If you source parts well enough, you can build a new motor slowly, rather than spend $4k up front for a swap. Thats what I did with theB18C5.

B18C5 short-block = $800
B18C5 built head = $800
ITR LSD Hydro Transmission = $1300 *shippped from Singapore*

With all the other misc parts and **** I needed, about $2500 total.

http://www.hmotorsonline.com &gt; *

 

They've ruled out the swap deal, with a budget of 4 grand? Okay. Well, if you learn how to launch a turbo car, a turbo with a good tune is well within your budget, and it ought to give you the acceleration you need with the MOST satisfying results.

Otherwise, nitrous is a possibility for much less, but apparently you have concerns about blowing up your engine. Nitrous is controllable, but a more touchy modification.

If you don't want to risk doing ANYTHING to your engine, $4000 is a good amount to put down on suspension, chassis stiffening, and replacing all your bushings with performance ones. You'll get stiffer response from your car, and more of the engine's power will be put to the wheels without that mushy suspension bounce you may get from stock crap. That, and you could invest in some serious weight reduction, ie: lightweight panels, removing unneccesary items, etc.

 

If you want to increase acceleration on your d16y7, then put in a tranny from a d16y8 or d16z6. These are the two single-cam VTEC motors and they have shorter gear ratios making it accelerate quicker. You will not have as good fuel economy though.

 

Damn, I totally forgot about that^^^

Add an LSD to that as well, seeing as how you've got the funds...

 

Gay *** trial account bull ****,

Anyway, I know very little about cars, and all the mechanical advice I get is from a select few family members who are pretty much agenst modifying my car period.

I'm lookin' into the turbo suggestion, but again, all i'm getting is:

My engine + turbo = bad idea

What would be the best thing for me in an engine swap? (ebay links or something of the sort would be nice ^_^)

Really don't need anything massively over powered

 

What is the mileage on your stock engine?

Before buying turbo for that motor, consider a leakdown test and a compression test. This will give you the general health of the motor and determine how safely you can handle a turbo.

If you are concerned about the health of your motor, then definitely consider a motor swap.

 

How bout all motor, you could start by:
-maybe a b series motor
-High compression pistons
-light weight con rods
-race bearings(Main,Rod,Thrust)
-Fully build the head
-bore out the block a lill(and a block guard)
- add some bolt-ons(i/h/e)
-High performance clutch kit
and some other micellanious parts you can probly come up wit you self but that should be enough to get you goin....

 

Engine has 110k on it as of today &gt;&lt; STILL has stock clutch which is getting replaced soon as I get a game plan togeather, as far as engine upgrades.


and as far as a swap goes, for a FULL swap, what should I expect to pay? Or rather what would be an ideal swap for myself? b16?

All motor sounds more my cup of tea

 

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and as far as a swap goes, for a FULL swap, what should I expect to pay? Or rather what would be an ideal swap for myself? b16?

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If you are on a budget, a b16a2 or b18b1 are your best bets. The b16a2 is a 1.6L VTEC, and the b18b1 is a 1.8L non-VTEC. These are both relatively cheap. My opinion out of these two would be the b18b1 because I think the b16 is the worst excuse for a b-series motor.

If money isn't an issue, consider a b18c5, which is the Integra Type-R motor. It has a high compression ratio, making it far from ideal for turbo charging...but since you want to go all-motor, it is a good idea. Or even the H22

 

get a vtec head, and an ex/si tranny, you'll feel a difference. $200-$300 for both

then boost

 

b16, gsr, type r, all those are pretty good daily driver engines if you keep them all motor. Don't let people say that your car is going to go out of control if you swap the engine. Now, more powerful, torquey engines you may need to watch out for, ie: H22/23, K20's... They are also okay DD's, but you'll need to come to terms with the fact that they are pretty powerful motors.

For your budget, and needs for a reliable, easy swap, you may want to look into the simple B16A swap, or GSR. They'd be quick, and at least the B16 swap would be well within your price range all the way through. You'll also have the simplicity and reliability of an N/A stock motor, with the speed you may want. IMO, if your looking into swapping, you should look into the simple B16 swap.

If you are intent on putting a little together, my suggestion to you would be a cheap LS engine (B18B), and get a B16 or GSR transmission. Heard nothing but good things about that setup as well, and should also be within your budget.


Modified by BlackoutVTi at 11:45 AM 8/13/2007

 

Believe it or not, a turbo set up would be a lot more practical and affordable. And you will see much greater performance gains, while remaining street drivable. Rev hard makes an awesome kit for the D series, and there are guys on here that sell the full kits for around $2500 shipped. With that kit, a set of larger injectors, and a tuned obd1 ecu, your setup will be plenty reliable. Just limit the boost to 7psi (Rev Hard wastegate comes with 7psi spring), and you'll be fine, even on stick internals.

With a $4k budget, there's still plenty room for an ex tranny. I don't recommend going with an older si tranny. Mainly because you don't want something with a ton of miles on it, but also because the 96-2000 ex trannies have better shift forks and, I believe, better synchros.

Getting a lightened flywheel is a very cheap way to kick up your acceleration/throttle response. Do it when you upgrade your clutch. Just don't go too light, or you will jeopardize the harmonic balancing of your motor, and street driving will become less practical.

 

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If money isn't an issue, consider a b18c5, which is the Integra Type-R motor. It has a high compression ratio, making it far from ideal for turbo charging...but since you want to go all-motor, it is a good idea. Or even the H22 </TD></TR></TABLE>

both x2!!!

 

ITR motor done deal....or go with a mini me swap and turbo your D.