horsepower and class restrictions. ?
okay. here's a little background.
i have a 94 civic ex with an 18g'd gsr (still internally wastegated). stock axles, 21mm rear sway bar, asr subframe brace, soon to be function and form type2 coilovers, and rt-615's all around. i'm running a 16.7x7 rim and 205 / 40 / 16, and rear gsr discs with hp+ all around. i have very few autocross days under my belt only because i don't want to track it til it's done how i want it to be done.
this weekend, i'm going to get my car retuned to make more power, and i'm shooting for upwards of 300. this is my daily driver at the moment because i'm still doing a motor swap on my camry (old motor got fucked at 332k miles. lol) and i don't know how long it's going to take to get a "new" motor for it.
would 300whp be too much for road racing? like, would the power be controllable? i mean sure i can tune it for 300 and then turn down the boost on event days, but how much do you think would too much be?
also, what class am i allowed to be accepted in? i was unable to determine any class since my car may be "highly modified" and if anything i'd be with the 400hp+ cars.
any help is greatly appreciated.
i have a 94 civic ex with an 18g'd gsr (still internally wastegated). stock axles, 21mm rear sway bar, asr subframe brace, soon to be function and form type2 coilovers, and rt-615's all around. i'm running a 16.7x7 rim and 205 / 40 / 16, and rear gsr discs with hp+ all around. i have very few autocross days under my belt only because i don't want to track it til it's done how i want it to be done.
this weekend, i'm going to get my car retuned to make more power, and i'm shooting for upwards of 300. this is my daily driver at the moment because i'm still doing a motor swap on my camry (old motor got fucked at 332k miles. lol) and i don't know how long it's going to take to get a "new" motor for it.
would 300whp be too much for road racing? like, would the power be controllable? i mean sure i can tune it for 300 and then turn down the boost on event days, but how much do you think would too much be?
also, what class am i allowed to be accepted in? i was unable to determine any class since my car may be "highly modified" and if anything i'd be with the 400hp+ cars.
any help is greatly appreciated.
I'm guessing by "road racing" you mean driving on a road course and not wheel to wheel racing?
If you could be more specific with your question and what you would like to do with your car people might be able to give you better answers.
If the car is your daily driver and you want to "road race" the only real choice is time trials/time attack.
http://www.nasaproracing.com/r...s.pdf
http://www.redlinetimeattack.c...2.pdf
As far as what is too much power all of your choices sound like to much to me for just starting out.
If you could be more specific with your question and what you would like to do with your car people might be able to give you better answers.
If the car is your daily driver and you want to "road race" the only real choice is time trials/time attack.
http://www.nasaproracing.com/r...s.pdf
http://www.redlinetimeattack.c...2.pdf
As far as what is too much power all of your choices sound like to much to me for just starting out.
are you looking into auto-x or road racing? you mention both. i've seen people road race w turbo hondas and have fun with it. i think it would take some dialing in though. i don't know if it'd be so much a matter of how much boost, but rather minimizing lag, maximizing traction, and learning the throttle control that will be required.
what ever type of racing you're looking at, you'll most likely be up against real stiff competiton with your setup. just go hit some auto-x or hpde events, have some fun, and learn from experience what tweaks your car will need.
what ever type of racing you're looking at, you'll most likely be up against real stiff competiton with your setup. just go hit some auto-x or hpde events, have some fun, and learn from experience what tweaks your car will need.
thanks guys.
well i'm looking into road racing meaning the road course. i don't quite understand what you mean by wheel to wheel racing. i only mentioned auto-x because i wanted to state that i have some experience, although not a whole lot. a road course seems to strike me better.
an 18g is pretty effective once it spools up and i'm not really spinning through gears right now. i don't know if 300whp will create a traction issue, but i could always turn down boost. this was one of my concerns.
i'm looking to get started around spring time. that's when i should have everything i need (coilovers, etc)
i checked out NASA rules and regs, and it seems i can't compete in any of the classes because i'm turbo. did i read it right? or no?
isn't hpde (yes i know what it stands for
) just like time attack and whatnot? or is that road racing put to simpler terms.
well i'm looking into road racing meaning the road course. i don't quite understand what you mean by wheel to wheel racing. i only mentioned auto-x because i wanted to state that i have some experience, although not a whole lot. a road course seems to strike me better.
an 18g is pretty effective once it spools up and i'm not really spinning through gears right now. i don't know if 300whp will create a traction issue, but i could always turn down boost. this was one of my concerns.
i'm looking to get started around spring time. that's when i should have everything i need (coilovers, etc)
i checked out NASA rules and regs, and it seems i can't compete in any of the classes because i'm turbo. did i read it right? or no?
isn't hpde (yes i know what it stands for
) just like time attack and whatnot? or is that road racing put to simpler terms.
yeah, turn the boost way down when you're starting out. you can incrementally turn it up after you've done some events. at that time, you can see how it affects the car and make adjustments.
within NASA's structure, HPDEs are the starting point. it IS NOT racing. you're out on the track in a controlled setting, in an environment where you can learn the basics of being out on the track (safety, awareness, driving line, etc), and improve your driving technique. HPDE is a 4-level program; after you've progressed to group 4, you can move on to time trials or wheel to wheel (racing!). HPDE is the perfect place to start.
there are classes that you could fit into in both NASA and SCCA, but again, it will be tough competition. you'll probably have a funner time and get more out of it if you go with a simpler setup, if you end up wanting to race. like i said though... just hit up some HPDE events to get started and see where that takes you.
within NASA's structure, HPDEs are the starting point. it IS NOT racing. you're out on the track in a controlled setting, in an environment where you can learn the basics of being out on the track (safety, awareness, driving line, etc), and improve your driving technique. HPDE is a 4-level program; after you've progressed to group 4, you can move on to time trials or wheel to wheel (racing!). HPDE is the perfect place to start.
there are classes that you could fit into in both NASA and SCCA, but again, it will be tough competition. you'll probably have a funner time and get more out of it if you go with a simpler setup, if you end up wanting to race. like i said though... just hit up some HPDE events to get started and see where that takes you.
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