Does the CTR have the same exact Intake Manifold as the ITR? What other parts on the CTR are different spec to the ITR?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Teamdiesel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does the CTR have the same exact Intake Manifold as the ITR? What other parts on the CTR are different spec to the ITR?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea the b16 intake mani and the b18c intake mani r the same. the heads r very similar but the itr motor comes with a slight port from factory. combustion chamber size is the same. aside from the pistons i dont think nething is really different.

 

No, they are not. The "R" has more volume. Headwork, IN valves, cams and springs are different also.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, they are not. The "R" has more volume. Headwork, IN valves, cams and springs are different also.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're on crack buddy.


Both of those heads are identical except for the CTR intake cam. Both get a hand job (slight P&P) from the factory too.

The only difference in the intake manifolds is one might have an extra vacuum port. Nothing else.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, they are not. The "R" has more volume. Headwork, IN valves, cams and springs are different also.</TD></TR></TABLE>

when cartune says b16, he means b16b. b16b im= b18c-r im

 

What about throttle body size, injector size, flywheel, clutch, pressure plate? Are these also the same as the ITR?

 

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You're on crack buddy.


Both of those heads are identical except for the CTR intake cam. Both get a hand job (slight P&P) from the factory too.

The only difference in the intake manifolds is one might have an extra vacuum port. Nothing else.


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LMFAO!

Telling DonF he doesnt know what hes talking about...

I love this place

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Teamdiesel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What about throttle body size, injector size, flywheel, clutch, pressure plate? Are these also the same as the ITR?</TD></TR></TABLE>

ctr t/b is 60mm, itr is 62mm. i'm pretty sure the rest are shared parts

 

I was replying to the B16 VS B18C not B16B which is the same. Sorry.

 

the b16b is a destroked b18c5

 

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No biggy.

 

ctr has a higher dome piston... so it isnt just a destroked b18c5 o.O;; but also the CTR cams have a higher intake cam o_O... but some one said that... but im also sure that the heads are bother p&pd... there both R's and both are die cast pistons so no no2 ;O

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, they are not. The "R" has more volume. Headwork, IN valves, cams and springs are different also.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So the CTR IM is different from the ITR?

 

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So the CTR IM is different from the ITR? </TD></TR></TABLE>

You weren't paying attention. Re-read everything.

DonF thought the OP was referring to B16 vs B18C

 

is the head a b16 head or a b18 head, since the block is the same?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95egGold &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and both are die cast pistons so no no2 ;O</TD></TR></TABLE>

not true. You can use it, just have to be smart about it.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Teamdiesel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the head a b16 head or a b18 head, since the block is the same?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The head is a PR3 head (casting wise) which is found on the B18c5, B17a and the the B16a1,2,3 and B16b so I wouldn't say it's b16 or b18 specific.

 

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yea the b16 intake mani and the b18c intake mani r the same. the heads r very similar but the itr motor comes with a slight port from factory. combustion chamber size is the same. aside from the pistons i dont think nething is really different.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no they are not if you are talking about the B16a. The B16b and B18cR have the same head. They both share a pr3 head, but the R models got a slight hand port.

 

type r pistons are die cast o_O; and die cast does very well with all motor and when the piston gets hot and you shove nitrous down it... its so cold it can crack the piston... not worth the risk imo ;O.... and um.. im pretty sure block is noth the same on b16.. and b18... er.. if u mean block parts.. ;O crank pistons and rods all dif.. but i bet u mean just the block

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95egGold &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">type r pistons are die cast o_O; and die cast does very well with all motor and when the piston gets hot and you shove nitrous down it... its so cold it can crack the piston... not worth the risk imo </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you actually ever decide to take the time to learn about nitrous, what it is and what it does/how it works, you'll finally understand what is wrong with your statement.

 

please educate oh great one O_O!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95egGold &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">please educate oh great one O_O!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have educated you by correcting you. It is now up to you to decide to take it apon yourself to educate your mind or choose the easy way out, do nothing and continue to appear ignorant.

 

ignorance is bliss ^_^

 

ive always thought that nitrous runs hot and the heat is what tears the engines up.

 

nitrous makes your motor run colder.. wich also helps in performance.. its basicly compressed air.. well.. not really.. but consider it that.. like if u run a dry shot.. its like running your mottor very lean.. and a wet shot is like running more fuel and air through your motor... but then again... u should ask 00sir.. cuz he is king of nitrous knowlege.. but.. i think he charges money for info... darn basterd!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95egGold &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ignorance is bliss ^_^</TD></TR></TABLE>

apparently....


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projectTeG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive always thought that nitrous runs hot and the heat is what tears the engines up. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't want to get this thread to off course so I'll just answer this last question here and if there's anymore, feel free to pm me.

Internally, nitrous=boost/forced induction PERIOD. All you're doing is cramming more AIR into a cylinder which allows more fuel to be burned, which makes more power. Fuel is where the power comes from, the extra air provided either through mechanical means (pump) or chemically (nitrous) is simply what allows the additional fuel to burn and release the power. When the car is tuned properly, NA, FI, or on nitrous, no real additional heat will come from the combustion process. The only thing that will happen is increased cylinder pressure which again is the result of burning more fuel in a defined space than is normally possible through NA means alone. In an NA car we try to increase cylinder pressure (to make more power) by using increased compression ratio, bigger cams, intakes/exhausts etc because all these things help get more air into a cylinder to burn additional fuel added to make more power.

In any engine configuration, NA, FI, nitrous, heat can and will tear up an engine IF it's improperly tuned and running LEAN. Properly tuned and maintained a boosted or nitrous engine will last as long as most any NA engine will without adverse affects.