is that normal its right next to the oil pan i saw it and was like wrf is that?? then i realized what it was.. is that bad???

 

just don't go off-roading in your lude and youll be fine. i can see my timing belt if that make you feel any better.

 

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lol i can see my flywheel and timing belt

 

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there was a black shield that bolted between the tranny and block. Normally No you should not see your flywheel through the bottom.

I must have left that shield out also, when i did my swap.
you might notice a difference this winter, when your flywheel gets wet it engages differently. as far as seeing your timing belt... id put that cover back on, make cut-outs if you wanna see your cam gears, all that dirt will make you tensioner and other **** dirty.

 

6 puck unsprung.... feels the same wet or dry

 

Like THC07 said there is a little black shield its only held in by 3 bolts I would buy a replacement from honda you dont want your flywheel sucking up anything. As far as your timing cover being off you should be fine just make sure nothing falls down into it.

 

I see dead people

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I've left that cover off all my Hondas. It's a "good idea" but it doesn't usually hurt to leave it open. It's extra weight

 

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how's the flywheel gonna suck up something

thats just a dust shield.
I'd replace it if it were my car...

 

You guys are idiots. If anything were to kick up off the road and get lodged in between the flywheel and the trans case you would have a serious problem on your hands.

And as far as leaving the 1oz plastic timing covers off on a car you drive around on the street, you're dumb. Anything falls in there and the belt is going to shear, leaving you with a head full of bent valves and a "dumbass" sticker on your forehead.

 

how else are they supposed to see their bling bling aem cam gears or their clutchmasters aluminum flywheel???????? you know they have to be able to get to their cam gears easily to make on the fly adjustments while driving around all day

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You guys are idiots. If anything were to kick up off the road and get lodged in between the flywheel and the trans case you would have a serious problem on your hands.

And as far as leaving the 1oz plastic timing covers off on a car you drive around on the street, you're dumb. Anything falls in there and the belt is going to shear, leaving you with a head full of bent valves and a "dumbass" sticker on your forehead.</TD></TR></TABLE>

either you been watching too much "final destination" or you don't understand probability...just find me one case of something getting sucked into the flywheel and i'll shut up and never leave that cover off again. otherwise leaving it off helps vent the clutch for one thing.

 

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either you been watching too much "final destination" or you don't understand probability...just find me one case of something getting sucked into the flywheel and i'll shut up and never leave that cover off again. otherwise leaving it off helps vent the clutch for one thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry but your not thinking very clearly. the flywheel isnt going to do any kind of sucking in the first place. with that being said i have seen cases of rocks and other road debris coming up off the road and hitting the flywheel, sometimes getting lodged inbetween the flywheel and the case. a cracked trans case and damaged flywheel WILL rresult everytime. and by the way, unless you are driving an extreme duty race car, your clutch doesnt need "venting", but it does need to stay dry and clean so put your cover back on and stop crying about probability before something probably finds its way into your flywheel and ruins your day

 

that reminds me! I have to put mine back on tonight..

You think i would have learned after having oil squirt all over my flywheel from a leaking oil pan gasket..

 

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either you been watching too much "final destination" or you don't understand probability...just find me one case of something getting sucked into the flywheel and i'll shut up and never leave that cover off again. otherwise leaving it off helps vent the clutch for one thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I consider myself to have a pretty good understanding of probability. I also consider myself to have a good sense of logic. (after 16 hours worth of engineering logic design classes ugh)

Probability is that nothing will kick up into the underbody of your car, ever, you're right, there are no shitty roads here in raleigh (yes I live here too) and you have nothing to worry about, a rock or a stick could never kick up.

Now for the logic part, you can either depend on chance, or luck, whatever you want to call it, to protect your engine. Or you can be logical and install a flywheel cover and timing covers.

Your choice, but I think you're dumb if you think your streetcar prelude will benefit from having no timing covers or a flywheel cover.

 

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Probability is that nothing will kick up into the underbody of your car, ever, you're right, there are no shitty roads here in raleigh (yes I live here too) and you have nothing to worry about, a rock or a stick could never kick up.

Now for the logic part, you can either depend on chance, or luck, whatever you want to call it, to protect your engine. Or you can be logical and install a flywheel cover and timing covers.
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"Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong."

 

yeah the words " Murphy's Law" definitely came to mind as I read his post

 

well its like this. i have both my covers off. it aint that big of a deal to u guys. im not defending the chance of something going wrong that would be a very dumb thing to say. just saying for us that chooses to keep it off will learn our lesson sooner or later.

 

and a meteor could fly through my roof right now...but it doesn't..of course anything is possible but its stupid to think that anything possbile will happen...stones just don't fly straight up off of the ground and the flywheel does not create an upward force. i'm going on 5-6 years driving with that thing off and no problems...and with so many other people runing with it off and no confirmed cases of damage resulting from road debris i don't think there is any reason to be pessimistic about it.

removing that plate allows cool air to blow over the clutch. they perform better under cooler temperatures. and if your driving where there is enough water to make the clutch slip, you probably shouldn't be driving there anyway


Modified by gogunkergorilla at 8:39 PM 8/12/2007

 

kid you're dumb. the chances of debris kicking up off the road are a lot greater than the chance of meteors flying through your roof. and the chances of you having a fully functional brain are even less.

go ahead with your air cooled clutch kid, whatever.

/argument

 

Gonna have to agree with mgags on this one, it's just stupid to run without those covers. Why even take the chance or increase the risk of something going wrong? I used to know peeps that ran open throttle body albeit a little different but that's up top and still he managed to suck debree into it. The cost to benefit ratio of having a "cooler clutch" just isn't worth it imo.

 

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I consider myself to have a pretty good understanding of probability. I also consider myself to have a good sense of logic. (after 16 hours worth of engineering logic design classes ugh)

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Matt, what are my chances of having a Diet Dr Pepper can getting up into the engine bay and lodged into my new alternator and killing it?

Cuz that happened

 

man, i wish i would have known about this clutch venting idea sooner. maybee i could have shaved a few tenths off my 1/4 et.

 

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Hmmm, maybe if I drilled "speed holes" in the bellhousing, I can probably cool it off even better.

 

if he doesn't vent the clutch he could blow the welds on the intake manifold.

 

I love this forum.