So from what I have heard, my '99 H22 should respond really well to a well desighned cai. Is this true? Will this motor repond better to intake rather than exhaust? If so, I have allways been a diy fan and prefer do do as much work myself as I can. How many people here have made diy cai's, and would you be willing to post some pictures of them? Or is this not a popular mod in this community? Any info or pics would be great. Thank you.

 

ur stock intake is pretty much a "cold air" intake. its probably the best you can get without spend major dollars. you can purchase cold air intakes from companies like aem or injen but in return only see like 1 or 2 horsepower gain and sometimes even some lost in torque. here is an intake comparison from another member doing tuning and dyno.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2049478

 

thank you sir. i was unable to find one but was hoping someone had written one up. So what wil it respond to best. Front or back?

 

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did you read the last post?

 

i made my own one of my friends had a injen intake for an s2000 and was going to throw it away i thought of putting it on ebay but said the hell with that i made it fit i used a grinder and my stock air box for the bends and if i know how to post pictures i would show
you but you could tell a diffrence in sound and in feel my friends agree but as for the stock cold air take that air box for giggles one day tell me its not restrictive its like a marathon runner using a straw to breath

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.Luder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ur stock intake is pretty much a "cold air" intake. its probably the best you can get without spend major dollars. you can purchase cold air intakes from companies like aem or injen but in return only see like 1 or 2 horsepower gain and sometimes even some lost in torque. here is an intake comparison from another member doing tuning and dyno.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2049478</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh first of all blake never tested a cold air intake just the V2 and a few short rams

second cold airs do make power because of the cold air they draw in and I'm guess it's a tad more then 1 bhp

you don't lose torque with a CAI you gain it.

Our stock air box isn't a cold air intake it's basically a heatshielded short ram with a semi cold air hole feeding the "heat shield" and for that to work you have to remove the resonator.

ok on to the OP.

sure you can make your own CAI it's not hard, just look at the million pictures on here and copy a pipe that fits the same, problem is companiess like AEM go through lots of testing to make sure that the intake isn't just adding noise.

Theres a few threads on HT that explain harmonic resonance and oh to understand and measure for it and I believe it's touched on in the blake's thread linked above.

Can you make your own CAI? hell ya if a company can do it you can do it.

will it be as good? could be, could be worse, could be better it has a lot to do with the filter you chose.

Personally Id go with a AEM CAI w/ a flowstack but thats just me.

 

In my opinion, perf. intake on ludes is just for the sound. It sounds very good, and you don't have to spend out the *** for a CAI--you can spend a fraction for a nice looking system. I just bought a nice filter, but cheap tubing, as it's got a clean finish and is the same tubing that any AEM will have, just not the logo, haha. The cold airs will net you a couple hp, which is negligable, but the sound is why I think it's a great mod.

 

and no carb number but that only really matters in Cali,

also the AEM uses thicker walled almuninum then the Ebay brands to help with heat.

Until someone does a dyno of stock versus a CAI only there is no way anyone can say what a cold air will get you, but I'm sticking with my belief that CAI actually do net a nice gain on torque and horsepower with the flowstacks until I'm proven wrong.

 

A couple hp, sure. Great sound, sure. Torque, I doubt it. Isn't that why everyone likes the type-s setup? It doesn't take away the low end, but gives a little in the high end? Correct me if I'm wrong...

 

yea yea yea....ok not +1 bhp maybe 3,4 if ur lucky than 5...there happy?

 

don't mean to threadf jack but, what if you just put a cone filter on stock intake, will there be any gains as opposed to spending alot of money on a cold air? I mean after looking at the graphs the stock intake seems to be the most logical, so i would assume just adding a cone filter may produce some gains...?????

 

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torque is horsepower over time. If there is a gain in horsepower there is a directly proportional gain in torque as well.

When i get the time, im going to try to find a way to stuff the longest pipe possible on my engine and see how it does.

 

Hey Blake, you mean like this? Wait'n on my flow stack.

 

ok everyone need to realize that blake DIDN'T test any CAI at all just short rams.

so the only conclusion that you can draw is that

an AEM short ram, a AEM V2 and a AEM CAI CUT TO BE A super short ram with a flow stack

isn't/barely better then stock.

so everyone just discrediting CAI because of blakes post need to read and comprehend better no true CAI was test nor was a CAI w/flowstack

now I can't prove how much power my CAI made because I don't have a stock versus just my CAI w/flowstack.

so i can't say anything for sure but don't discredit CAI just yet.

 

axlline: Whoa! Very very nice! What was all involved with that setup? I'll do that next weekend lol..

 

How was that made?! Pretty nice.

 

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When i get the time, im going to try to find a way to stuff the longest pipe possible on my engine and see how it does.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I made it myself out of carbon fiber tube, and did the bend like they do for aluminium straight pipe bends. There will be a write up in about a week. Thanks

 

NO! NOW!

-jk-

Can't wait to see it man. I'm sure it can be done cheaply with PVC and such... Also it looks pretty slim.. 2"?

 

do you have a connection to get CF? i tried sourcing some, but the defense department buys all of it before its produced.

 

^ lol... Seriously? Hope you are f*cking with us..

 

dead serious , i use to have a hookup when i worked in a fiber glass shop, and we did alot of work for the navy, so i could have them order it, but not anymore.

 

h8 you

 

isn't there a carbon fiber shortage or something in the world?

to many ricers getting CF z3 fenders I guess =P

thats a nice pipe axlline, how does it hold up against the heat? better then standard aluminum?

 

^

K&N Drop in

 

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