Road Racing / Autocross & Time Attack Road Racing / AUTOX, HPDE, Time Attack

wheel strength? Enkei RPF1 vs Black Racing Pro N1

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 03:06 AM
  #1  
blackdc5's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
Default wheel strength? Enkei RPF1 vs Black Racing Pro N1

I'm running 17x8 +35mm Enkei RPF1s right now.
I'm putting HPDEs on the side for a while, and the RPF1s are a little plain.
(I had another set and the RPF1s were track only but I sold my other set since the RPF1s weren't selling)

Possibly trading for a set of 17x8 +38 Black Racing Pro N1s.

I'm concerned about wheel strength since in a year or so
(whenever I finish school) I WILL be hitting the tracks again.
(and yes I know of the weight gain with the Pro N1s)

Now I read RealTimeRacing ditched the SSR Comps for RPF1s since they were
"tired of bending the SSRs" but I forget if the source is reliable.
Furthermore, since Enkeis are easier to source, I wouldn't mind too much having to replace one.

Anyone heard of issues fo the Black Racing Pro N1s?
I've seen it on a J's Racing S2000, but I rarely see them used here in the U.S.
so I have no idea if they are are durable as the RPF1s....
Not to mention I had an old set of Pro N1s and I had to settle for 17x7.5 +35mm since any other size would have to be shipped from Japan....so they aren't that easy to source in case I need to replace one.

Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 04:54 AM
  #2  
Egezzy's Avatar
Spongebrad Squarepants
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 10,456
Likes: 0
From: #BrapCity
Default Re: wheel strength? Enkei RPF1 vs Black Racing Pro N1 (blackdc5)

id stay with the rpf1s.
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 05:46 AM
  #3  
MikeySpec's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 3,348
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Default Re: wheel strength? Enkei RPF1 vs Black Racing Pro N1 (Egezzy)

Both are strong enough for hpde use. I dont see any issues with rpf1s as long as you dont off the car too hard. The weight of the black racing wheels has to be huge compared to the enkeis.
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 10:51 AM
  #4  
blackdc5's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
Default Re: wheel strength? Enkei RPF1 vs Black Racing Pro N1 (MikeySpec)

15.5lbs 17x8 +35mm and 15.9lbs for each 17x9 +35mm I want to get for the fronts (if I keep the RPF1s of course)

vs.

19lbs for the 17x8 +38mm Black Racing Pro N1s
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 12:28 PM
  #5  
spock_rocker's Avatar
memoryFAB.com representative
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 7,811
Likes: 0
From: MEMORYFAB.COM
Default Re: wheel strength? Enkei RPF1 vs Black Racing Pro N1 (blackdc5)

wider and lighter !!
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2007 | 07:55 AM
  #6  
Lo-Buck EF's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,805
Likes: 1
From: building H2 cars, NY
Default

my friend dailys his rpf1s in nyc. so they're plenty strong
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2007 | 10:44 PM
  #7  
jarel's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 13,501
Likes: 0
From: Angeles Crest, so cal
Default

rpf-1's all day long
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:26 PM
  #8  
blackdc5's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
Default Re: (jarel)

here's how my car looks right now....including a few track pics so it's relevant to this subforum lol.







them black racing pro n1s i used to have...17x75+35mm





Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:58 PM
  #9  
efficiencyJunkie's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,009
Likes: 0
From: by LAX and the water, Ca, usa
Default Re: (blackdc5)

The n1s are just plain cast right?

Stay with the RPf1s.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 01:00 PM
  #10  
Egezzy's Avatar
Spongebrad Squarepants
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 10,456
Likes: 0
From: #BrapCity
Default Re: (blackdc5)

well i think the rpf1s look better but i thought this was over wheel strength?
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 01:47 PM
  #11  
blue2ksi's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 605
Likes: 0
From: Huntington Beach, CA, United States
Default Re: (blackdc5)

woo SOWS!
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 01:58 PM
  #12  
suprmods's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,022
Likes: 1
From: Oxford, UK
Default Re: (blackdc5) (Egezzy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Egeezy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i think the rpf1s look better but i thought this was over wheel strength? </TD></TR></TABLE>

In which case the Rpf1's still win.
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 08:03 AM
  #13  
blackdc5's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
Default Re: (blackdc5) (suprmods)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suprmods &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In which case the Rpf1's still win.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes to me the Pro N1s wins in the looks dept., but I got rid of my old Pro N1s for the RPF1s for the purpose of function at the track (and yes they have served me right).

Track time is put on hold currently so might as well roll on some nice wheels for the time being right?
So I considered my old favs again...but still no word on if they are strong, durable wheels since replacing one would be a PITA.
As of now seems the RPF1s are the winner.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2007 | 02:40 PM
  #14  
blackdc5's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
Default Re: wheel strength? Enkei RPF1 vs Black Racing Pro N1 (blackdc5)

since I have this pic uploaded in my p-bucket,



this is the car off of which i was considering trading my enkeis for his Pro N1s.
he is selling this car because he just bought an FG2 sedan Si and already has the interior stripped and caged. he's going to be running RPF1s on it and already has a set, but since it's a track car, he needs an extra set of wheels.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2007 | 06:38 PM
  #15  
Todd00's Avatar
I said I don't want a title!
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 11,506
Likes: 2
From: OH
Default Re: (blackdc5)

Not to take the thread off-topic, but raise that RSX up a little bit and I think you'll find it'll handle a little better. Unless you have done some major geometry 'fixing', your front roll center is way below ground and your rear shocks, I'm sure, are binding up.

But you've got the right idea with sticking as much rubber as you can under the car on a properly matched-width wheel.

And I don't think realtime stopped using SSRs only because they bent a lot (rumor). There were other factors involved.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2007 | 07:57 PM
  #16  
blackdc5's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
Default Re: (Todd00)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not to take the thread off-topic, but raise that RSX up a little bit and I think you'll find it'll handle a little better. Unless you have done some major geometry 'fixing', your front roll center is way below ground and your rear shocks, I'm sure, are binding up.

But you've got the right idea with sticking as much rubber as you can under the car on a properly matched-width wheel.

And I don't think realtime stopped using SSRs only because they bent a lot (rumor). There were other factors involved.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My LCAs pick up points are parallel at this point. (pics w/ Pro N1s the car was a lot lower than it is now). I still do intend on getting RCAs to better the situation.
The car WAS lower before but I felt a huge difference in handling stability once I raised it.

How can you tell if the rears are binding up? The only thing I can complain about the rear was it's high speed twitchiness even w/ toe in in the rear--my DIY diffuser helped in that dept though.

I plan on running wider fronts, be it by hub centered spacers or wider (staggared) wheels. Some guy from Canada has a wider front setup and told me it has only helped him for the better.

As for the SSRs, do you know the reasons then? I mentioned that it was just what I read, and never stated it as fact, but it did make me wonder why they made the switch. Perhaps change in sponsorships?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
DB1_559
Southeast (Sales)
2
Sep 16, 2015 07:22 PM
Rahxephon
Wheel and Tire
18
Jun 9, 2007 10:50 AM
omgwtfbbqcrx
Wheel and Tire
17
Jan 14, 2007 08:22 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:46 AM.