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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:14 AM
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I know this isnt an ITR but you guys are the quickest to respond, I have put a little over 1000 miles since my last oil change and last nite my CEL came on and couldnt get anything after 5000 rpm, I just checked my OIL and there was nothing on the dipstick, and there was alot of smoke coming from the exhaust. DO you know what this might be?

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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:19 AM
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Can you give us any more details? How many miles on the car? Is your only mod the DAC? It's hard to say based on the information you provided. Cars burn oil if seals are bad, if piston rings go bad, if cylinder walls wear down or get scored, or if your car runs really rich.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:26 AM
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Can you give us any more details? How many miles on the car? Is your only mod the DAC? It's hard to say based on the information you provided. Cars burn oil if seals are bad, if piston rings go bad, if cylinder walls wear down or get scored, or if your car runs really rich.
There is 57,000 miles on the car, DAC is only mod and the oil was changed with Mobil 5w 30
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:28 AM
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check of oil drain bolt is tight enough....and then if not i would bring it in for maintenence... could be a bad seal.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:30 AM
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There isnt a leak either, there wasnt any puddles of oil after I moved my car.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:36 AM
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If it's burning out of the exhaust pipe, it's either bad rings, or bad valve guides... Those are the two main points of exit for oil.... When does it smoke in realation to first starting the car up, acceleration? Deceleration? The way to tell will be to do a compression test, and a leak down test..
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:38 AM
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ya my car is burning oil bad too, when I checked my spark plugs, there was a little oil on plug #2, is this a sign of a bad valve seat? or blown piston ring? my maintenence light came on too, so i guess I'll have to check it out when i go home for the summer.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:40 AM
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If it's burning out of the exhaust pipe, it's either bad rings, or bad valve guides... Those are the two main points of exit for oil.... When does it smoke in realation to first starting the car up, acceleration? Deceleration? The way to tell will be to do a compression test, and a leak down test..
I was sitting in the parking lot I just started it up and revved it up a little bit and a **** load of smoke came out and kept coming out for awhile then when it stopped I did it again and the same thing happened
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:41 AM
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is the smoke blue or white...
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:42 AM
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yes, ... good advice given already....compression & leakdown....i think at this point leakdown is pretty obvious as of results.... compression test is your friend
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:43 AM
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Well maybe switching to a thicker oil (10w-30) and not using Mobil1 will slow down the rate at which your oil is burning. Mobil1 has a tendancy to burn at a very fast rate.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:44 AM
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is the smoke blue or white...
White
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:45 AM
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Sounds like the valve guides... When the engine is cool, and the oil has a chance to settle, the oil will tend to seep past the guides. So when you start you get smoke, but when running, the oil doesn't have a chance to get by the guides as much... Very loose theory..
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:45 AM
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your CEL comes on for a reason, if you tell us the code, we tell you the problem
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:47 AM
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your CEL comes on for a reason, if you tell us the code, we tell you the problem
How do check it yourself again?

It the same as last time I had the problem, I forget the code but it was a Vtec problem
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The CEL prolly came on for low oil pressure cause of the leak.

Do a compression check. If all the numbers are with in a couple percent of each other, right around 195 or so, then your rings and valves are ok. The oil is comming from the valve guides. Run a thicker oil, some Valvoline Max Life 10w30, and see if that helps the problem...
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:48 AM
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Low oil pressure can cause a number of CEL codes to be thrown....
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:49 AM
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How do I do a compression check?
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:50 AM
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go here:

http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/c.../comptest.html
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:51 AM
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To check the check engine light, go to your passenger seat and pull out the service check connector, im assuming you have done it before, and either use a paperclip or a wire and connect it like you would any other plug, and turn you key to the on position, watch for the blinks, slow blinks accounts for the first set of numbers, fast blinks account for the second number, so if it blinks slow four times then fast 5 times, thats a code 4 5 and etc.


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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:53 AM
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No, 4 slow, 5 fast is code 45... 4 slow, pause, 5 fast is codes 40 and 5...
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:54 AM
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To check the check engine light, go to your passenger seat and pull out the service check connector, im assuming you have done it before, and either use a paperclip or a wire and connect it like you would any other plug, and turn you key to the on position, watch for the blinks, slow blinks accounts for the first set of numbers, fast blinks account for the second number, so if it blinks slow four times then fast 5 times, thats a code 4 5 and etc.[Modified by Spoon97R, 5:52 PM 6/11/2002]
No, I have never done it before.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:58 AM
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No, 4 slow, 5 fast is code 45... 4 slow, pause, 5 fast is codes 40 and 5...
never knew it work that way, i guess i learn something new as well
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 09:17 AM
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I just called Honda service and the guy told me that its probably because I use VTEC to much, I asked if I rings could be bad and he said probably not.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 09:20 AM
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Did you do the last oil change? If you took it to a quick lube place, are you sure they gave you enough oil? They could have shorted you by 0.5-1.0 quarts. That might explain why you got so low so quickly.
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