http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...74690

is this a good HO alternator for my 88 crx? or is it ebay garbage?

thanks

 

6933 positive feedbacks and 99.7% Positive... Looks like he doesnt' sell garbage...

 

I have installed only a couple Load Boss alt. both are still in operation and working well.

Both were "plug and play" straight drop in, no modes of any kind, one is in a 97 Civic with a small 200W system the other is in an Integra, [G3] can't remember the year, with a 700W system. 94

 

I never had good experience from buying H.O. alts.....they were basically stocks ones with lower amps at idle to me.

Id stick with OEM unless your getting a very high powered system....2500watts plus...anything lower and an extra batt in the back or good back up front would do ya just fine

 

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Id stick with OEM unless your getting a very high powered system....2500watts plus...anything lower and an extra batt in the back or good back up front would do ya just fine</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong, a extra battery is not going to do anything but give you longer play time. If you don't have enough current to run your amp's to the power they need, you will not get the rms needed to push your speakers. No matter what. There is no way around it period.

 

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Wrong, a extra battery is not going to do anything but give you longer play time. If you don't have enough current to run your amp's to the power they need, you will not get the rms needed to push your speakers. No matter what. There is no way around it period.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its going to give you more storing capacity for you amps to choose from. Have you seen the batt under the hood of a Civic\CRX....its no bigger than a few 9volts.Thats the main reason why Civics get dimming......no capacity....everytime the bass hits it suck all it can from the batt and than dims when the alternator has to play catch up to replenish the batt...and on going cycle

In the real world id be willing to bet a extra batt would be more helpful than hurtful...not online msg board opinions

 

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Its going to give you more storing capacity for you amps to choose from. Have you seen the batt under the hood of a Civic\CRX....its no bigger than a few 9volts.Thats the main reason why Civics get dimming......no capacity....everytime the bass hits it suck all it can from the batt and than dims when the alternator has to play catch up to replenish the batt...and on going cycle.
In the real world id be willing to bet a extra batt would be more helpful than hurtful...not online msg board opinions

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You got to be kidding me. So your going to tell me that all these guys running two or more alternators are wrong?!! More batteries are the answer? you have no ideal on what you are talking about and need to stop posting. You have no ideal on the subject or car audio. You can add all the batteries that you want. All you are going to get is play time. Why do you think when spl guys burp there car there engines are running? So there is enough current for there amps to make the power they need. Why is your sound system louder when the car is running? Because the alternator is providing the current to charge the battery to keep the amps feed. A battery is no more then a reservoir. If you can't take the info that here go post this on the 12volt.com. So you can get laughed out of there quick

Its best to be silent and thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

 

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You got to be kidding me. So your going to tell me that all these guys running two or more alternators are wrong?!! More batteries are the answer? you have no ideal on what you are talking about and need to stop posting. You have no ideal on the subject or car audio. You can add all the batteries that you want. All you are going to get is play time. Why do you think when spl guys burp there car there engines are running? So there is enough current for there amps to make the power they need. Why is your sound system louder when the car is running? Because the alternator is providing the current to charge the battery to keep the amps feed. A battery is no more then a reservoir. If you can't take the info that here go post this on the 12volt.com. So you can get laughed out of there quick

Its best to be silent and thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

pwnt

thanks guys

 

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Its going to give you more storing capacity for you amps to choose from. Have you seen the batt under the hood of a Civic\CRX....its no bigger than a few 9volts.Thats the main reason why Civics get dimming......no capacity....everytime the bass hits it suck all it can from the batt and than dims when the alternator has to play catch up to replenish the batt...and on going cycle
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Rrrriiiiggghhhhtttt.........

Lights dimming has nothing to do with battery capacity.

 

i have bougth 2 of thos HO alt from that seller, and both installed w/o a hitch, and worked perfectly.

one thing u may want to look into is upgrading the charge wire taht goesfrom the alternator to the battery. i've never done that, but i heard it was better to run a thicker wire.

 

Yes, running a 4 guage or thicker (depending on output) would be better then the, I going to say smalll because some car that I worked on I could not tell what gauge i was fo the life of me. Is not big enough to handel the extra current. Its like a milk shake thru a straw.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrx-killer-Sti-eater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, running a 4 guage or thicker (depending on output) would be better then the, I going to say smalll because some car that I worked on I could not tell what gauge i was fo the life of me. Is not big enough to handel the extra current. Its like a milk shake thru a straw.</TD></TR></TABLE>

not if you use a bubble tea straw

but if i had to guess, stock honda ones are about a 8 guage or so. but its been man years since i built an engine harness

 

off topic but, does anyone know what gauge my battery wire would be?
checking out terminals

 

This is actually correct. Even though high output alternators create the amperage, they have to be running at a higher rpm to create it. In town driving and idle leave these alternators barely putting out anything. So a lot of stop and go driving with listening to a system off a ho alternator is worse for the charging system than a stock one with not enough amperage

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cujo613 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is actually correct. Even though high output alternators create the amperage, they have to be running at a higher rpm to create it. In town driving and idle leave these alternators barely putting out anything. So a lot of stop and go driving with listening to a system off a ho alternator is worse for the charging system than a stock one with not enough amperage</TD></TR></TABLE> Where the hell do you guys get this stuff?

All alt., stock, aftermarket or HO aftermarket, output increases/decreases with RPM.

I have installed more then a few HO alt. and dual alt. setups, without any problems and all did what they were supposed to do, deliver more current to supply the higher load. 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Where the hell do you guys get this stuff?

All alt., stock, aftermarket or HO aftermarket, output increases/decreases with RPM.

I have installed more then a few HO alt. and dual alt. setups, without any problems and all did what they were supposed to do, deliver more current to supply the higher load. 94 </TD></TR></TABLE>

yup they do. But what was the application for those system. where they daily drivers in stop and go traffic? Or competing vehicles.


In a daily driver driver with not enough freeway driving, a ho alternator may do more damage than help.

reason is, your cycling your battery too much at idle, battery dies.

I have chewed up three alternators from alterstart

I was in the same boat. Oh you need a high output alternator.

Nope

my battery was getting chewed up from not getting charged, why. HO"s don't charge for crap at idle. So I was overcycling my battery killing it, then chewing up the alterator.

Just wasn't the solution I needed for a daily driver


Modified by cujo613 at 1:59 PM 8/4/2007


Modified by cujo613 at 2:01 PM 8/4/2007

 

Output Rated @ 70-75 amps at 800-1000 rpm and 170 amps at 1800-2000 rpm.

that is still a little higher than my stock alt at 60 amps i believe

 

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yup they do. But what was the application for those system. where they daily drivers in stop and go traffic? Or competing vehicles.


In a daily driver driver with not enough freeway driving, a ho alternator may do more damage than help.

reason is, your cycling your battery too much at idle, battery dies.

I have chewed up three alternators from alterstart

I was in the same boat. Oh you need a high output alternator.

Nope

my battery was getting chewed up from not getting charged, why. HO"s don't charge for crap at idle. So I was overcycling my battery killing it, then chewing up the alterator.

Just wasn't the solution I needed for a daily driver


Modified by cujo613 at 1:59 PM 8/4/2007


Modified by cujo613 at 2:01 PM 8/4/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's what the voltage regulator is for, if you were having a problem, it was probably because of a defective voltage regulator, not because it was a HO alt. 94

 

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x2...

 

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That's what the voltage regulator is for, if you were having a problem, it was probably because of a defective voltage regulator, not because it was a HO alt. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

that was replaced as well. I understand the idea behind the HO, But not a beleiver anymore for a daily driver.

 

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that was replaced as well. I understand the idea behind the HO, But not a beleiver anymore for a daily driver.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I see what your saying but your still wrong. If you need the full alternator output at idel are you have to do is tell the builder what you need it for. Or change to a smaller pulley. There is a company over here were I am at that make a gain switch so I can adjust it on the fly.

 

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I see what your saying but your still wrong. If you need the full alternator output at idel are you have to do is tell the builder what you need it for. Or change to a smaller pulley. There is a company over here were I am at that make a gain switch so I can adjust it on the fly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The pulley system on the alternator is already been switched. They come from alterstart with a smaller pulley. Had to change out all the belts as well.

Now the problem is it works, for only a short time. Soon the alternator barely puts out at idle. When it is new it does just fine.
On average 6 monthys and I am chewing up the battery.

current system
zapco 1100.1
zapco 360.4
Image idqv2 fifteens
alpine ivad-310
2 alpine headrest monitors
type R components and co-ax
2 1 farad caps

tried a yellow top, chewed up 2 of them
1 red top
now a standard
the yellow tops were still good but wouldn't re charge on account the alternator couldn't give it the juice. Something like 200 amps to jump a dead yellowtop

all battery last about 6 months and have been through 3 alternators. 2 of which were from alterstart


P.S.

Never mind

just got off the phone with the company that makes the alternator and they confirmed my fears. The alterstart alternators don't charge at idle they need about 1000 rpm's to start charging, which isn't what their website states. They state that they put out 75 amps at idle. They recomended that I have the idle adjusted to 1000 rpm's at idle.

So back to the stock one for me


Modified by cujo613 at 11:12 AM 8/8/2007

 

75 amps at idel will charge a battery. Also what so hard about bumping up the idel if your burping your car. Or having them go with a smaller pulley. This has been done over and over with out any problems.

 

so am i going to have problems?
setup is
stinger spv35 batt
load boss alt 170 amps
alpine mrp-f550 4 channel amp
6.5" alpine type R components
6.5" alpine type R two way speakers
tsunami 100 amp anl fuse
4 gauge wires on batt
all this is set to go in in the next few days

future plans:
2 alpine type E 12" subs
alpine mono block amp mrp-m650

am i going to "chew" up my battery?
should i throw a cap in there?

thanks

 

No you are not going to have problems, find the largest ccs battery that you can find and put it in the stock location, Do the big three upgrade. IF you want you could add a cap.