well,

after careful consultation and studying of this situation, i dont believe a turbo itr setup would be a wise decision.

even on "*****" boost (ala FI forum nickname for 5 psi), the 10.6 compression does not sit well in the eyes of boost...even with a thicker headgasket (inline pros) running at about a point lower, still no good...

cast pistons,....crap to make you broke...lots of things...going....wrong....

 

yeah but when u spend money on new cams..pistons..blah blah blah..i'll just push one button and turn up my boost and wave good bye!!

 

yeah but when your engine is blown about 100 yards down the highway i will be looking to the side and waving bye bye!

 

This has been covered before. if you're going boost, the LS or GSR engine is best.

 

Yeah its really a matter of tradeoffs. Do you want good reliability with descent power? Or Do you want awesome instant tire spinning power with questionable reliability? There also seems to be so much more tuning involved with FI.

 

why would gsr engine be best? i figure the inline pro headgasket and you have 9.6:1 compression. ...all with the same problems a gsr engine would provide.

 

if i get 100 yards in front of you..u can garuantee that you won't even come close to me...so don't hate! my spool is the last thing u will hear!

 

i figure the engine is cheaper and the lower compression offers more boost

 

compression makes power.... keeping it from blowing up is all in the tuning.

 

True..but higher compression equals less boost more hp..the only problem is the shitty 91 **** gas octane for high compression cars in cali...thats why you try to find a equilibrium in lower compression but not to low where boost can't make it up..

 

boost level isnt a problem. i wanted to run 4-5 psi only. ...and thats still a challenge

 

If you know how to tune it you will be ok. I have tested boost everywhere from 5psi to 15psi with my charger. If you know how to tune it you will be OK.
However, HOWEVER, if you make more then 250whp you will NOT MATTER WHAT will bust your piston lanseals. It doesn't matter who you are or how well its tuned, it will happen one day. Common fact when knowing Honda engines. Our stock piston lanseals are our weakness on the engine if you tune it correctly. If you blow a piston ring, etc... then you either way over boosted, boosted too high to not match the tuning, did not tune it correctly, poor tuning, or just plan messed up.
If the car is tuned good, you will always be ok. Just because its boost doesn't mean you will blow up. Its POOR tuning or poor ownership for blowing the engine up unless you just made too much power. To just say that its compression, etc... which causes it to blow is wrong. With stock internals the car will bleed that compression off greatly up top due to overlap in the cams. So it can't be the compression. Compression only limits FI cars on boost due to timing and streetability. Heck even with my 91 octaine here in CA I've been ok. However I do know TONS and I mean TONS of people who have blown rings, rods, etc... due to tuning with FI cars or just over drove the car.
RULE OF FI:
1. Never and I mean never stay at WOT (wide open throttle) for more then 15-20sec at a time!!!!! It might not hurt you yet, but will soon enough.
2. Always tune to the car. And don't just go to the dyno with high octaine and tune it! Tune it in heat and in the almost worst conditions you might have to make sure it will run fine no matter what.
3. Don't ever just say its just 1 or 2 extra psi. It won't hurt for just this 1 race! Yeah right. The tuning on the car isn't for that 1 or 2 extra psi. The tuning was for the boost you set it too. And if the tuner wanted the best power then they tuned the car to its limits with that boost. So adding a psi or two more will HURT you.
4. Just because its tuned good doesn't mean your OK. You (yourself) can still blow the engine up due to human error. IE: over rev, misshifting, etc...
5. Max power isn't always good. 250whp+ will bust the stock piston lanseals no matter what over time!!! No engine is better then another and it will happen to you. Its just a matter of when.

 

hey man, you still replace the same thigns for allmotor

 

damn this is the best piece of advice..

i saw a drag car running 11 compression and 26 pounds, this car could have been streetable, stock head, stock sleeves, dfi was tuning....

 

I'll be boosting(turbo) my currently stock Type R the 1st or second week of August. I'll be running a .45 Bar WG spring, 5.8psi I believe. I'll keep everyone posted on it's status and have before and after dyno's. This will be my 3rd turbocharged Honda/Acura. The key is tuning and not getting boost happy and overboosting.
M

 

lets beat a dead horse, woohoo!

 

Makes me want to put on some MC Hammer,... "break it down, ohh ohh.... oh ohhh.. can't touch this."

 

This is enough to keep me NA.

I'd rather be slower and enjoy the visceral rush of 8000+rpm down the straight-a-ways... than faster at part throttle.

Different strokes for different folks.

 

12sec NA is more impressive than 12sec FI

plus, Id rather be able to drive my car at WOT around a race track without having to worry about if my motor can withstand the boost for sustained periods of time. Sure, your FI motor may be able to handle a few races around a track, but how long do you think that is seriously gonna last? not very long IMO.

boost sucks

 

Now where is the fun in that?

 

more than 15-20 seconds at wot in boost will have you going over 130mph....

 

first off I believe a 12 second turbo OR NA car are just as unreliable as one another. taking a car and adding 50 or so whp is kind of putting reliability in the toilet, if you want reliable buy a car and drive it stock

 

pinhead hit it right on the dot.
thats my saying too .

 

anti-boost advocate

 

That is Super-Gay. What's the point of making a fast car if you can only enjoy it for one Vin Diesel-lifetime?