H22 with Nitrous, good idea?????????
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H22 with Nitrous, good idea?????????
Ok, so this is my problem, I just purchased a full ZEX 75 shot nitrous kit for $500 and I am still debating to putting it in. I am looking for extra horsepower without spending tons of money so that is why I purchased it. But I also really dont want to blow or damage my motor. My motor is internally stock but has many bolt-ons:
Magnaflow Exhaust, Megan test pipe, Injen CAI, airmass header, AEM fuel rail, AEM pullies, Skunk2 throttle body and intake manifold, MSD ignition, MSD sparkplugs, adjustable cam gears, VAFC vtec controller, Chipped ECU.
I looked for some write-ups on here about the Q&A's about nitrous but did not find anything.
I really need some opinions on whether or not I should really do this and can I do it safely?
Magnaflow Exhaust, Megan test pipe, Injen CAI, airmass header, AEM fuel rail, AEM pullies, Skunk2 throttle body and intake manifold, MSD ignition, MSD sparkplugs, adjustable cam gears, VAFC vtec controller, Chipped ECU.
I looked for some write-ups on here about the Q&A's about nitrous but did not find anything.
I really need some opinions on whether or not I should really do this and can I do it safely?
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (HondaH22a#1)
off topic question but:
why do you have a vafc and a chipped ecu? why do you have just a chipped ecu?
on topic, as long as you dont get crazy with the nitrous an H22 will survive it just as well as any other motor. i've seen up to 100 shot on the stock bottom end, but that is with tuning, colder plugs, MSD ignition..etc
Do it right and have all the safety nets tuned in, then it will be fine. I'll wait for Nirvtec to post since he is a little more nitrous savy than i am. I ran a 55 shot NX on my old prelude.
why do you have a vafc and a chipped ecu? why do you have just a chipped ecu?
on topic, as long as you dont get crazy with the nitrous an H22 will survive it just as well as any other motor. i've seen up to 100 shot on the stock bottom end, but that is with tuning, colder plugs, MSD ignition..etc
Do it right and have all the safety nets tuned in, then it will be fine. I'll wait for Nirvtec to post since he is a little more nitrous savy than i am. I ran a 55 shot NX on my old prelude.
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (98vtec)
When i purchased the car it already came with it so I jusy left it in. Why, is that bad to have both?
Yes, that is exactly what I need to know all the saftey nets with nitrous and all the do's and dont's.
Yes, that is exactly what I need to know all the saftey nets with nitrous and all the do's and dont's.
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (HondaH22a#1)
its bad that the car is running a basemap from god knows where and running nitrous, on top of that.....a vafc to mess things up real good.
*tuning program that has secondary maps for nitrous use (hondata, neptune, AEM)
*colder plugs if you run a hefty shot
*MSD rpm window switch (so you are not spraying between gears or in the event of a mis-shift while spraying)
those are just what i could think of....not really into nitrous use anymore
*tuning program that has secondary maps for nitrous use (hondata, neptune, AEM)
*colder plugs if you run a hefty shot
*MSD rpm window switch (so you are not spraying between gears or in the event of a mis-shift while spraying)
those are just what i could think of....not really into nitrous use anymore
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (98vtec)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
why do you have a vafc and a chipped ecu? why do you have just a chipped ecu?
on topic, as long as you dont get crazy with the nitrous an H22 will survive it just as well as any other motor. i've seen up to 100 shot on the stock bottom end, but that is with tuning, colder plugs, MSD ignition..etc
Do it right and have all the safety nets tuned in, then it will be fine. I'll wait for Nirvtec to post since he is a little more nitrous savy than i am. I ran a 55 shot NX on my old prelude.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I actually ran a Chipped ecu and a VAFC.......simple reason, ditch the rev limiter and be able to tune simply. Not ideal but it got the job done to 196whp N/A and 267whp Nitrous. It was a KATMAN chipped P13 with 8500 rev limiter(for my 8000rpm cams) and I immediately tuned the vafc on the dyno as it was far from perfect.
I have run more bottles with a 100 shot than i can remember......
MSD Dig6 to retard timing, 1 and 2 step colder plugs, and a few passes on the dyno to make sure a/f was looking good.
I have also run a 75 shot with no timing retard and 1 step colder plugs.....Kind of a time bomb, but the a/f looked great on the dyno so I ran with it......of course until I desired more power.
My 1st paragragh about Nitrous is: Its fun as hell but it can blow your motor. If you can't afford another motor you have no business running nitrous.
Take it for what you will as Im sure there will be some know-it-alls that reply ITS SAFE and YOU CAN RUN A 75 SHOT WITH NO WORRIES! Guess what? Nobody can make a guarantee.
I have blown up a motor with an 80 shot before and it had nothing to do with the size of the shot. I had old plugs in there, made a couple very fast passes and didn't check my plugs. Kaboom! The car IS NOT my daily driver and I simply bought another motor and installed it.
So ask yourself that question and I will be more than happy to help you out;
Can you afford to buy another motor and have it installed? If yes, is having your car down for the install time going to cause any type of hardship? Simply put DO NOT spray nitrous if you rely on your car for getting to work-making money.
This is SAFE nitrous use in its only form in my opinion......
Spraying nitrous on a daily driver you rely on or not having money to fix what you break is about as dumb as it gets.
Im by no means the fastest Nitrous Prelude owner out there but I have learned quite a bit over the years(had some great teachers) and made some very quick passes. The 13.3@108mph does little justice as I have proven to be faster on the street.
We'll say I'm not afraid of the AWD Turbo crowd or Beefy V8 crowd and leave it at that! 
Not to mention the 75 shot on the RoadCourse gave me tingles all over my body and made my passenger scream like a 9yo girl!
I'd be more than happy to help.....
Modified by :=:NirVTEC:=: at 9:32 AM 7/31/2007
why do you have a vafc and a chipped ecu? why do you have just a chipped ecu?
on topic, as long as you dont get crazy with the nitrous an H22 will survive it just as well as any other motor. i've seen up to 100 shot on the stock bottom end, but that is with tuning, colder plugs, MSD ignition..etc
Do it right and have all the safety nets tuned in, then it will be fine. I'll wait for Nirvtec to post since he is a little more nitrous savy than i am. I ran a 55 shot NX on my old prelude.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I actually ran a Chipped ecu and a VAFC.......simple reason, ditch the rev limiter and be able to tune simply. Not ideal but it got the job done to 196whp N/A and 267whp Nitrous. It was a KATMAN chipped P13 with 8500 rev limiter(for my 8000rpm cams) and I immediately tuned the vafc on the dyno as it was far from perfect.
I have run more bottles with a 100 shot than i can remember......
MSD Dig6 to retard timing, 1 and 2 step colder plugs, and a few passes on the dyno to make sure a/f was looking good.
I have also run a 75 shot with no timing retard and 1 step colder plugs.....Kind of a time bomb, but the a/f looked great on the dyno so I ran with it......of course until I desired more power.
My 1st paragragh about Nitrous is: Its fun as hell but it can blow your motor. If you can't afford another motor you have no business running nitrous.
Take it for what you will as Im sure there will be some know-it-alls that reply ITS SAFE and YOU CAN RUN A 75 SHOT WITH NO WORRIES! Guess what? Nobody can make a guarantee.
I have blown up a motor with an 80 shot before and it had nothing to do with the size of the shot. I had old plugs in there, made a couple very fast passes and didn't check my plugs. Kaboom! The car IS NOT my daily driver and I simply bought another motor and installed it.
So ask yourself that question and I will be more than happy to help you out;
Can you afford to buy another motor and have it installed? If yes, is having your car down for the install time going to cause any type of hardship? Simply put DO NOT spray nitrous if you rely on your car for getting to work-making money.
This is SAFE nitrous use in its only form in my opinion......
Spraying nitrous on a daily driver you rely on or not having money to fix what you break is about as dumb as it gets.
Im by no means the fastest Nitrous Prelude owner out there but I have learned quite a bit over the years(had some great teachers) and made some very quick passes. The 13.3@108mph does little justice as I have proven to be faster on the street.
We'll say I'm not afraid of the AWD Turbo crowd or Beefy V8 crowd and leave it at that! Not to mention the 75 shot on the RoadCourse gave me tingles all over my body and made my passenger scream like a 9yo girl!
I'd be more than happy to help.....
Modified by :=:NirVTEC:=: at 9:32 AM 7/31/2007
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (98vtec)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres a difference between dumb with money to back mistakes and dumb without </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well said.....My Carefree attitude has been one of my greatest tools......If something bad happens I know I will not have to worry about what I am driving to work, or how I am going to pay for it. Most people don't have this luxury.
If a broken car means bumming rides to work, taking the bus, and borrowing money to fix it...........STAY AWAY. I don't care if youre running a 35 shot, you're still playing with matches next to a leaky gas tank!
</TD></TR></TABLE>Well said.....My Carefree attitude has been one of my greatest tools......If something bad happens I know I will not have to worry about what I am driving to work, or how I am going to pay for it. Most people don't have this luxury.
If a broken car means bumming rides to work, taking the bus, and borrowing money to fix it...........STAY AWAY. I don't care if youre running a 35 shot, you're still playing with matches next to a leaky gas tank!
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (HondaH22a#1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaH22a#1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When i purchased the car it already came with it so I jusy left it in. Why, is that bad to have both?
Yes, that is exactly what I need to know all the saftey nets with nitrous and all the do's and dont's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The thing with "chipped" ecu's is that you don't know what they changed exactly. Most chipped programs run richer fuel maps, advanced timing, and no rev limiters. The more important aspect is the timing part. With nitrous, you need to watch out for detonation that can kill a motor in a split second. Retarding the timing will help prevent preignition (the mixture igniting before the power stroke).
If anything, switch back to a stock ECU, and keep the AFC.
Yes, that is exactly what I need to know all the saftey nets with nitrous and all the do's and dont's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The thing with "chipped" ecu's is that you don't know what they changed exactly. Most chipped programs run richer fuel maps, advanced timing, and no rev limiters. The more important aspect is the timing part. With nitrous, you need to watch out for detonation that can kill a motor in a split second. Retarding the timing will help prevent preignition (the mixture igniting before the power stroke).
If anything, switch back to a stock ECU, and keep the AFC.
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (Finest)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Finest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The thing with "chipped" ecu's is that you don't know what they changed exactly. Most chipped programs run richer fuel maps, advanced timing, and no rev limiters. The more important aspect is the timing part. With nitrous, you need to watch out for detonation that can kill a motor in a split second. Retarding the timing will help prevent preignition (the mixture igniting before the power stroke).
If anything, switch back to a stock ECU, and keep the AFC. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Again.....well said! I knew that the CHIPPED or SPIKED ECU as I like to call it had minimal timing advance and I retarded as much as 4* with the 100 shot.
If youre running stock cams just find a stock P13 and tune the vafc for now.
I actually found that when tuned N/A to ~13:1 a/f that my NOS 75 & 100 shot made a perfect 12:1 a/f across the board! for NOS doing a great job with jets. This is NOT always that case though.
The thing with "chipped" ecu's is that you don't know what they changed exactly. Most chipped programs run richer fuel maps, advanced timing, and no rev limiters. The more important aspect is the timing part. With nitrous, you need to watch out for detonation that can kill a motor in a split second. Retarding the timing will help prevent preignition (the mixture igniting before the power stroke).
If anything, switch back to a stock ECU, and keep the AFC. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Again.....well said! I knew that the CHIPPED or SPIKED ECU as I like to call it had minimal timing advance and I retarded as much as 4* with the 100 shot.
If youre running stock cams just find a stock P13 and tune the vafc for now.
I actually found that when tuned N/A to ~13:1 a/f that my NOS 75 & 100 shot made a perfect 12:1 a/f across the board!
for NOS doing a great job with jets. This is NOT always that case though.
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (:=:NirVTEC:=:)
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Again.....well said! I knew that the CHIPPED or SPIKED ECU as I like to call it had minimal timing advance and I retarded as much as 4* with the 100 shot.
If youre running stock cams just find a stock P13 and tune the vafc for now.
I actually found that when tuned N/A to ~13:1 a/f that my NOS 75 & 100 shot made a perfect 12:1 a/f across the board! for NOS doing a great job with jets. This is NOT always that case though.
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i take it you were running a wet shot?
Again.....well said! I knew that the CHIPPED or SPIKED ECU as I like to call it had minimal timing advance and I retarded as much as 4* with the 100 shot.
If youre running stock cams just find a stock P13 and tune the vafc for now.
I actually found that when tuned N/A to ~13:1 a/f that my NOS 75 & 100 shot made a perfect 12:1 a/f across the board!
for NOS doing a great job with jets. This is NOT always that case though.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i take it you were running a wet shot?
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (98vtec)
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i take it you were running a wet shot?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The only way to do it IMHO.
Back to chipped ecus.....You will see recommendations from Nitrous companies NOT TO RUN A CHIPPED ECU!!.......Its most def not BS advice.
i take it you were running a wet shot?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The only way to do it IMHO.
Back to chipped ecus.....You will see recommendations from Nitrous companies NOT TO RUN A CHIPPED ECU!!.......Its most def not BS advice.
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lol, i'd love to explain to people what i see from some of the maps i have download from online.... 
and then of course the end consumer never gets it tuned thus completely killing the reason of getting X ecu.
and then of course the end consumer never gets it tuned thus completely killing the reason of getting X ecu.
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (98vtec)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol, i'd love to explain to people what i see from some of the maps i have download from online.... and then of course the end consumer never gets it tuned thus completely killing the reason of getting X ecu.</TD></TR></TABLE>
People think Chipped ECUs change the world.......
I don't know about you, but Im not going to just throw an ECU into a car and hope for the best. Letting someone else make fuel/ign tables without my car on a Dyno?! Hahaha!
I simply did mine to ditch the rev limiter......The A/F looked like crap when I made a baseline pass on "0" vafc settings. VTEC needed to be moved also.
To the OP: Get rid of that ECU ASAP!
and then of course the end consumer never gets it tuned thus completely killing the reason of getting X ecu.</TD></TR></TABLE>People think Chipped ECUs change the world.......
I don't know about you, but Im not going to just throw an ECU into a car and hope for the best. Letting someone else make fuel/ign tables without my car on a Dyno?! Hahaha!
I simply did mine to ditch the rev limiter......The A/F looked like crap when I made a baseline pass on "0" vafc settings. VTEC needed to be moved also.
To the OP: Get rid of that ECU ASAP!
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (98vtec)
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sell the afc and use the money for a REAL tune.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The way that AFC's work is almost as bad as a "spiked" ecu. Manipulating the MAP signals also change the timing tables. That's also why the "AFC hack" for boosted applications is a ticking time bomb as well. When you're adding more fuel from the AFC, you're tricking the ecu into thinking that it's in a different part of the fuel/ignition tables. And with Honda's programming, the lower portion of those tables are tuned for higher ignition timing.
Sometimes, the most simplest setup's are the best. Kids are just throwing things together, hoping that they'll gain HP through osmosis from all the parts combined without taking the time to actually understand how these parts work for their setup.
sell the afc and use the money for a REAL tune.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The way that AFC's work is almost as bad as a "spiked" ecu. Manipulating the MAP signals also change the timing tables. That's also why the "AFC hack" for boosted applications is a ticking time bomb as well. When you're adding more fuel from the AFC, you're tricking the ecu into thinking that it's in a different part of the fuel/ignition tables. And with Honda's programming, the lower portion of those tables are tuned for higher ignition timing.
Sometimes, the most simplest setup's are the best. Kids are just throwing things together, hoping that they'll gain HP through osmosis from all the parts combined without taking the time to actually understand how these parts work for their setup.
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (Finest)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Finest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The way that AFC's work is almost as bad as a "spiked" ecu. Manipulating the MAP signals also change the timing tables. That's also why the "AFC hack" for boosted applications is a ticking time bomb as well. When you're adding more fuel from the AFC, you're tricking the ecu into thinking that it's in a different part of the fuel/ignition tables. And with Honda's programming, the lower portion of those tables are tuned for higher ignition timing. </TD></TR></TABLE>
If you're adding fuel with an AFC it seems it would do that by "adding" manifold pressure. Wouldn't that be reducing ignition advance?
The way that AFC's work is almost as bad as a "spiked" ecu. Manipulating the MAP signals also change the timing tables. That's also why the "AFC hack" for boosted applications is a ticking time bomb as well. When you're adding more fuel from the AFC, you're tricking the ecu into thinking that it's in a different part of the fuel/ignition tables. And with Honda's programming, the lower portion of those tables are tuned for higher ignition timing. </TD></TR></TABLE>
If you're adding fuel with an AFC it seems it would do that by "adding" manifold pressure. Wouldn't that be reducing ignition advance?
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (A Blue Lude)
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If you're adding fuel with an AFC it seems it would do that by "adding" manifold pressure. Wouldn't that be reducing ignition advance?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry for the confusion, I was speaking of the AFC hack for boosted applications, where you're using the AFC to manipulate the MAP signal so you can run larger injectors without tripping the MAP sensor. You actually trim off the fuel values to run larger injectors. This will put you in a portion of the timing tables that has higher ignition timing values. It was just an example of using an AFC to tune with negative aspects.
If you're adding fuel with an AFC it seems it would do that by "adding" manifold pressure. Wouldn't that be reducing ignition advance?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry for the confusion, I was speaking of the AFC hack for boosted applications, where you're using the AFC to manipulate the MAP signal so you can run larger injectors without tripping the MAP sensor. You actually trim off the fuel values to run larger injectors. This will put you in a portion of the timing tables that has higher ignition timing values. It was just an example of using an AFC to tune with negative aspects.
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (Finest)
Ok, so here is my plan that I think that I might be doing:
Ditch the chipped ecu get a stock ecu and ditch the VAFC and get a hondata s200.
Any opinions????
I just canceled my order for the nitrous kit because I found out that it was a dry shot and I have heard nothing but bad things about them.
So what system is the most reliable and "best" (NX,ZEX....)?
Ditch the chipped ecu get a stock ecu and ditch the VAFC and get a hondata s200.
Any opinions????
I just canceled my order for the nitrous kit because I found out that it was a dry shot and I have heard nothing but bad things about them.
So what system is the most reliable and "best" (NX,ZEX....)?
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (HondaH22a#1)
Well, if youre wanting to get Hondata a stock Prelude ECU won't work....
See Hondatas website for details....
Hondata.com
I currently run a custom NOS kit with Cheater solenoids which are as good as it gets for my application.
If I did it over....I would buy an NX kit hands down. Gen2X comes with bottle heater and purge. The NX solenoids are some of the best out there.
Solenoids are what makes kits good or bad.....Not a fan of the Barney Box with the ZEX kit.
See Hondatas website for details....
Hondata.com
I currently run a custom NOS kit with Cheater solenoids which are as good as it gets for my application.
If I did it over....I would buy an NX kit hands down. Gen2X comes with bottle heater and purge. The NX solenoids are some of the best out there.
Solenoids are what makes kits good or bad.....Not a fan of the Barney Box with the ZEX kit.
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (:=:NirVTEC:=:)
It just found an ECU at http://www.phearable.net Do you think that this would be a good ECU to run hondata with?
An I was looking at some MSD retard timings and all of them say for boost, would that be the same one for nitrous too?
An I was looking at some MSD retard timings and all of them say for boost, would that be the same one for nitrous too?
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (HondaH22a#1)
Looks like some good things there....
The MSD Dig6 has timing retard.....thats what I was using.
The setup I ran 13.3 with was:
Stock JDM H22
S2S1 Cams/VT
MSD Dig6/Coil
Katman P13
VAFC2
NOS 100 shot wet
BFG Drag Radials........
Traction was killing me.......from a roll on the HWY I have yet to bow down to another car.
Im going to be playing with a Custom 1-2-3 stage next month and will keep everyone updated.
The MSD Dig6 has timing retard.....thats what I was using.
The setup I ran 13.3 with was:
Stock JDM H22
S2S1 Cams/VT
MSD Dig6/Coil
Katman P13
VAFC2
NOS 100 shot wet
BFG Drag Radials........
Traction was killing me.......from a roll on the HWY I have yet to bow down to another car.
Im going to be playing with a Custom 1-2-3 stage next month and will keep everyone updated.
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (DCxMagus)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DCxMagus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If your going to be using Hondata S300 then you don't need a MSD or anything to retard timing you can do that all in Hondata.
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Yep, Hondata has a pretty complex system for Nitrous control build in with capability for 2 stages and different timing retard. Control that seems worthless without an S300 and a laptop though. I can't imagine trying to use it with an S100/200 and not be able to make changes when I wanted to.
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Yep, Hondata has a pretty complex system for Nitrous control build in with capability for 2 stages and different timing retard. Control that seems worthless without an S300 and a laptop though. I can't imagine trying to use it with an S100/200 and not be able to make changes when I wanted to.
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Re: H22 with Nitrous, good idea????????? (HondaH22a#1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaH22a#1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I already have an MSD sport compact ignition, would I be able to still use that and the MSD dig6?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, you would just replace the SPORT with a Dig6. The Dig6 is one of their most expensive systems and includes timing control, MAX rev limiter, and 2 step rev limiter.
I have 2 for sale if youre interested......1 is used for a quick season and the other is unused.
They go for ~$320 and would sell the used for $150 and new for $200.
http://www.shopatron.com/produ...424.0
No, you would just replace the SPORT with a Dig6. The Dig6 is one of their most expensive systems and includes timing control, MAX rev limiter, and 2 step rev limiter.
I have 2 for sale if youre interested......1 is used for a quick season and the other is unused.
They go for ~$320 and would sell the used for $150 and new for $200.
http://www.shopatron.com/produ...424.0