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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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my car is running hella slow i have stage two cams skunk2 and the entire valve train skunk2 i have 250 dry compression, headers,2 1/2 exhaust,type r pistons, along with a ecu that has a spoon chip. can you help me get out of the 14.8 1/4 mile runs? i also have skunk2 intake manifold and 70mil skunk2 throttle body. msd external coil and cap but i have old msd wires. when my vtec kicks in, it puters but i have new spark plug wires,maybe that is why i have no power do i need a ecu were the vtec kicks in later?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:20 AM
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my first guess is gonna be that ecu. you tried any other ecu's?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by curtisb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my car is running hella slow i have stage two cams skunk2 and the entire valve train skunk2 i have 250 dry compression, headers,2 1/2 exhaust,type r pistons, along with a ecu that has a spoon chip. can you help me get out of the 14.8 1/4 mile runs? i also have skunk2 intake manifold and 70mil skunk2 throttle body. msd external coil and cap but i have old msd wires. when my vtec kicks in, it puters but i have new spark plug wires,maybe that is why i have no power do i need a ecu were the vtec kicks in later? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Try getting all that useless bolt-on bullshit tuned on a dyno .

Your ECU is a ******* joke - get it re-chipped by somebody that actually does tuning.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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so you think i need a new chip or an ecu
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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not yet but do you think the ecu is no good the vtec kicks in at 4 and red line at 9.5 it is older but when i had a b16a stock it ran 14.4 now i have a built b16a2 and it runs slower do i need to tune an ecu just for the cams?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Id say so. get AEM. If you have deep pockets.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SparCoUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Id say so. get AEM. If you have deep pockets.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd say that's a REALLY GOOD waste of money.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by curtisb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not yet but do you think the ecu is no good the vtec kicks in at 4 and red line at 9.5 it is older but when i had a b16a stock it ran 14.4 now i have a built b16a2 and it runs slower do i need to tune an ecu just for the cams?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If your ECU is chipped it's pretty downhill from here. You just bring it to a dyno tune, and they can tune it on the dyno and edit your basemap (assuming the chip is reburnable) and it'll run 100%.

Just bring your car to a dyno shop to get a quote, it'll probably be around 200 bux - but your car will run fine, they'll be able to find the best VTEC engagement point and edit your fuel & ignition tables & **** - you don't find the best VTEC engagement by dicking around with ur butt dyno and a VTEC controller - Numbers speak louder than that. Then it'll run great and at least you know the motor won't blow due to poor (usually street) tuning.

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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hey thank you i owe you, iam in cali willows ca, do you know of iny dinos in Sacramento are around the area
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Get a real tune and it should be night and day
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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do you mean dino or chip can i just get a socket and a tuned chip or dino can they dino a stock p28 0bd1 ecu?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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With the extent of your upgrades (cams, pistons, etc.), I would suggest that you get your car tuned, ON A DYNO, ASAP. These can all be good upgrades for an all-motor car, but you won't get any of that power without a good tune, ie: NOT a generic Spoon chipped pos ecu.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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i called a dino place and they said they cant do it without a tunable ecu what do i do?
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Get a stock ECU, and find a dynoing place that sells and tunes Hondata or something. That'd be the easiest route. Cheapest? I dunno...but you need that tune.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Any tuner should be able to chip and tune your car. Every ecu is capable of tuning once it's been chipped.

It's California, aren't there tuning shops on every corner?
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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yeah bro sounds like you just need a good tune........its true there should be dyno shops all over cali.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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yeah bro sounds like you just need a good tune........its true there should be dyno shops all over cali.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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look up midnight performance in rancho cordova. they do hondata and a few other ems'.

honestly, i dont know how you havent blown that engine up yet with that chip.
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