Transmission Swap???
I have a 1996 honda accord V6. THe engine code is C27a4 and it is an automatic trannsmission. Does anybody know if i can do a swap from and automatic to a manual transmission? Or has anybody done it themselves? If u can help me i would really appriciate it .
Thanks!
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The swap can be done. I have a 1996 Honda Accord LX and I also want to do the swap. There's a place here in Cali, that will do the conversion for about $1,800 and I was told that was kind of cheap but they will give me a warranty on parts and labor. For the '96 though, it has an OBDII so the wiring is going to be a biaaatch. Alot of people on this site gave me links to pics that show how I can do it myself, but I'm not that mechanical. You should do a search for the information.
His is different hondaspeedracer, you have a I4, he has a v6
Yours is infintesimally easier than his is.
for not reading lol
As to his, as RedneckDave said it's possible, I've seen two, one is in Canada, and I believe the other is in Texas?
There's a guy on hondasociety.com that listed all the parts and what not.
Yours is infintesimally easier than his is.
for not reading lolAs to his, as RedneckDave said it's possible, I've seen two, one is in Canada, and I believe the other is in Texas?
There's a guy on hondasociety.com that listed all the parts and what not.
I'm gonna be getting a 98 Accord V6 from my uncle, but it's an auto. I want to swap a manual transmission into it. Does anyone know what kind of price tag would come with that? How difficult it would be? If I should try to find a stock tranny from another Accord, or buy a performance one? Where could I find these at?
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id like to know this too. i heard you can use cl-s 6speed
id like to know this too. i heard you can use cl-s 6speed
What you need to know is if the block/engine is shared by any other honda/acura cars. Additionally, you will need to know if the bolt patter between the trans bell housing and engine block are the same. If so then it will bolt together.
The next consideration is the trans input shaft and its length. The trans input shaft needs to rest inside the end of the crankshaft and insert into a pilot bearing. If the input shaft is too long, it will damage the trans and not fit, if it is too short, the input shaft will not properly engage the pilot bearing and lead to premature input shaft bearing wear and vibration when clutch is disengaged.
The third consideration is transmission mounting points. You need to determine if the manual trans will share the same mounts/brackets as the auto. If not, one would need to fabricate the mounts of modify the existing ones.
Fourth, is the flywheel consideration. Some engines use the flywheel to help counter balance the crankshaft. If you use the flywheel from another engine, you must make sure that it will not imbalance the crankshaft and rotating assembly.
Fifth, is the half shafts. They might be different lengths. You night need custom fabricated half shafts to connect the power to the wheels.
There are others issues like the shifter assembly, pedal assembly, and hydraulic clutch components, but I'll leave those how since we discussing mainly trans fit ment.
The next consideration is the trans input shaft and its length. The trans input shaft needs to rest inside the end of the crankshaft and insert into a pilot bearing. If the input shaft is too long, it will damage the trans and not fit, if it is too short, the input shaft will not properly engage the pilot bearing and lead to premature input shaft bearing wear and vibration when clutch is disengaged.
The third consideration is transmission mounting points. You need to determine if the manual trans will share the same mounts/brackets as the auto. If not, one would need to fabricate the mounts of modify the existing ones.
Fourth, is the flywheel consideration. Some engines use the flywheel to help counter balance the crankshaft. If you use the flywheel from another engine, you must make sure that it will not imbalance the crankshaft and rotating assembly.
Fifth, is the half shafts. They might be different lengths. You night need custom fabricated half shafts to connect the power to the wheels.
There are others issues like the shifter assembly, pedal assembly, and hydraulic clutch components, but I'll leave those how since we discussing mainly trans fit ment.
I want to do the auto to manual conversion on my Accord so badly. I put alot into the car but shops keep telling me to sell it cause it's a headache to do the job and just use the money to buy a car with stick.
I could go that route but I would swap out my Viper alarm, alpine cd head unit, alpine 10 disc cd changer in the trunk and black Enkei wheels before I sell it.
I could go that route but I would swap out my Viper alarm, alpine cd head unit, alpine 10 disc cd changer in the trunk and black Enkei wheels before I sell it.
jabontke brought up some really good points
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Here's some info for ya. The C25a and the C27a were the motors of choice for the 88-90 Acura Legend which came with a 5-spd manual. Because you both share the C27 block the Legend 5-spd should bolt up. When it comes to the input shafts I'm not so certain about compatibility but it shouldn't be too hard to swap some parts around since there was a C27 motor that came with a 5-spd. You'll need to fab a new tranny mount but if you are so dead set on doing the swap then you should have no qualms about making your own mounts. As far as I know Honda has never used a counterbalancing flywheel with any of their motors, so that won't be a problem. The biggest foreseeable problem you could run into is the length of the half shafts. I'm not positive on compatibility between the two.
The 91-95 Legend did come with the incredibly rare C32A "Type II" 6-spd manual option but when you factor in trying to find one of those trannys plus the cost of buying it then add up the time and effort trying to make it work just makes it pretty impractical. There's a 5-spd 88 Legend tranny for sale on eBay right now for $350. ---------http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem
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Here's some info for you.
If you are indeed going to get a 6g v6 Accord all I can say is this: Be ready for a tranny replacement to be a necessity. We'll just say the J30A1 transmission wasn't the best auto tranny Honda ever built. While it is possible to convert to the CL Type-S J32A2 6-spd you'd be better off finding the 5-spd or 6-spd from a 7g J30A4 or J30A5 Accord. I've always found that you'll run into less compatibility issues if you stick with the same displacement within a motor series. And when you have less compatibility issues you don't catch yourself saying "Can't we just weld it into place" quite as often.
An interesting side note to whoever cares... If anyone ever tries to argue with you that a J-series tranny will bolt up to a C-series block (or visa versa) You can calmly explain to them that even though the J-series is the successor to the C-series motor, not much is compatible between the two. The main difference between the two is that the C-series is in fact a 90° V6 where the J-series is a 60° V6. The reason Honda introduced the J-series as a 60° V6 is because the they had to find a way to make their V6 a little more compact to fit in smaller engine bays.
Hope this helped you out a little. If not then at least you now know a little more about Hondas.
HondaPowered!!! -
Here's some info for ya. The C25a and the C27a were the motors of choice for the 88-90 Acura Legend which came with a 5-spd manual. Because you both share the C27 block the Legend 5-spd should bolt up. When it comes to the input shafts I'm not so certain about compatibility but it shouldn't be too hard to swap some parts around since there was a C27 motor that came with a 5-spd. You'll need to fab a new tranny mount but if you are so dead set on doing the swap then you should have no qualms about making your own mounts. As far as I know Honda has never used a counterbalancing flywheel with any of their motors, so that won't be a problem. The biggest foreseeable problem you could run into is the length of the half shafts. I'm not positive on compatibility between the two.
The 91-95 Legend did come with the incredibly rare C32A "Type II" 6-spd manual option but when you factor in trying to find one of those trannys plus the cost of buying it then add up the time and effort trying to make it work just makes it pretty impractical. There's a 5-spd 88 Legend tranny for sale on eBay right now for $350. ---------http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem
sf686550 -
Here's some info for you.
If you are indeed going to get a 6g v6 Accord all I can say is this: Be ready for a tranny replacement to be a necessity. We'll just say the J30A1 transmission wasn't the best auto tranny Honda ever built. While it is possible to convert to the CL Type-S J32A2 6-spd you'd be better off finding the 5-spd or 6-spd from a 7g J30A4 or J30A5 Accord. I've always found that you'll run into less compatibility issues if you stick with the same displacement within a motor series. And when you have less compatibility issues you don't catch yourself saying "Can't we just weld it into place" quite as often.
An interesting side note to whoever cares... If anyone ever tries to argue with you that a J-series tranny will bolt up to a C-series block (or visa versa) You can calmly explain to them that even though the J-series is the successor to the C-series motor, not much is compatible between the two. The main difference between the two is that the C-series is in fact a 90° V6 where the J-series is a 60° V6. The reason Honda introduced the J-series as a 60° V6 is because the they had to find a way to make their V6 a little more compact to fit in smaller engine bays.
Hope this helped you out a little. If not then at least you now know a little more about Hondas.
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