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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 10:33 AM
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Hey guy's I am looking at getting a new clutch and flywheel, what do you guys recommend for street and road racing. Toda? Comptech? Exedy?

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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 10:34 AM
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lightest flywheel you can get and whatever clutch steve recommends.....
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 10:36 AM
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whatever clutch steve recommends.....
Steve Who?
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 10:38 AM
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I've got the toda flywheel and exedy clutch and it works great BUT if I did it again I'd go with the ATS carbon clutch with the toda flywheel (the quality of the toda flywheel is second to none)
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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I value Steve's opinion and he recommend using the Clutchnet Kush-lok disc.
This is a full face organic unsprung disk which should give a smooth gradual engagement.

After seeing his post of the EXPO, I don't feel comforatble with that recommendation. He stripped the splines off the clutchnet disk. He also mentioned that it happened to him a few other times.

I'm not sure how hard he drives his car but, i've seen some hard drivers use clutches that outlast his.

I'm not bashing ...... I'm just voicing my observation.

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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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whatever clutch steve recommends..... Steve Who?
Steve = sgT. I doubt you'll rip the splines out of the clutch & need to do a Wal-Mart swap (Gingerman ITRExpo2002)

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As for how hard he drives....does a 12sec 1/4 count for hard launches? If I recall, the clutch that he "desplined" last time was a different brand. I could be wrong


[Modified by BudMan, 1:44 PM 6/10/2002]
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 10:44 AM
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I value Steve's opinion and he recommend using the Clutchnet Kush-lok disc.
This is a full face organic unsprung disk which should give a smooth gradual engagement.

After seeing his post of the EXPO, I don't feel comforatble with that recommendation. He stripped the splines off the clutchnet disk. He also mentioned that it happened to him a few other times.

I'm not sure how hard he drives his car but, i've seen some hard drivers use clutches that outlast his.

I'm not bashing ...... I'm just voicing my observation.

-Nick
Nick...when mine comes in I'll check the free play on a tranny that one of the local shops has sitting around...and Steve drives the hell out of his car, much more abusive than the majority of us(not dissing you Steve).
Austin
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 10:48 AM
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I value Steve's opinion and he recommend using the Clutchnet Kush-lok disc.
This is a full face organic unsprung disk which should give a smooth gradual engagement.

After seeing his post of the EXPO, I don't feel comforatble with that recommendation. He stripped the splines off the clutchnet disk. He also mentioned that it happened to him a few other times.

I'm not sure how hard he drives his car but, i've seen some hard drivers use clutches that outlast his.

I'm not bashing ...... I'm just voicing my observation.

-Nick
FYI, I've had this happen with other discs, not just clutchnet.
Most people are fine with spring discs, I am not. but I seem to be the exception
and not the rule.

My recommendation is the ACT pressure plate and a stock or stock type
replacement disc. This combo will give you the extra holding power you
might need, and give you the stock engagement you want.

I am going to call clutchnet today and see what they will do about this disc.
I'll let you know what they say.
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 10:53 AM
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Steve - Oh ok ..... I understand.

I was going to go that route ...... ACT HD pressureplate with stock disk but I went ahead and got the SS modified disc from ACT. I got a deal that I couldn't turn down.

It will all go in this weekend ... I'll give my impressions of it later (i'll just add to the 1 millionth impression list)

_nick
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 12:19 PM
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Steve = sgT.

That's right!


Itr-Animal, I'd go with a comptech 6.75lb flywheel and what steve posted above. He's been through more clutches and abused them drag racing, street racing, road racing, etc, like crazy... he also won't kid you or tell you mistruths. He'll tell you if a certain clutch sucks or whatever. I've got some nice jdm goodies, but honestly, why spend the $ when you can get something better closer to home (unless you're a label-***** like me)?
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 12:24 PM
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Toda fly

exedy/toda clutch
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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My recommendation is the ACT pressure plate and a stock or stock type
replacement disc. This combo will give you the extra holding power you
might need, and give you the stock engagement you want.
for a 185-200 whp itr that weekend races: ACT Heavy Duty or Xtreme act pressure plate?

is the thrust bearing load from excessive clamping force an issue for longevity?
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 12:40 PM
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HD i have used up to 350whp and it still held fine.
I guess it would boil down to what kind of pedal pressure you like.

I have seen no excessive thrust bearing wear in teh 100k+ miles I have
put on my motors and i have been reusing my thrust bearings.
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 12:43 PM
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exedy chromoly flywheel mugen clutch

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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 01:13 PM
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Stock FW and Exedy Cerametallic Racing Clutch


Edit: Oh... it holds like a **** and has just more pressure then a stock pedal. It grabs reall well ...


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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 09:34 PM
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Stock FW and Exedy Cerametallic Racing Clutch


Edit: Oh... it holds like a **** and has just more pressure then a stock pedal. It grabs reall well ...
Does the Exedy Cerametallic clutch have a good wear rate? Cheers.
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 09:43 PM
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I've seen plenty of exedys fail. The just dont last long. period.

UPDATE: called clutchnet, looks like they will replace the disc for me.
Still working out the details, but we'll see how everything goes.
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 09:50 PM
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Spoon clutch + Spoon Flywheel

Exedy clutch + Spoon Flywheel

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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 10:31 PM
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JUN flywheel + ACT clutch =
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 12:54 AM
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I've seen plenty of exedys fail. The just dont last long. period.

UPDATE: called clutchnet, looks like they will replace the disc for me.
Still working out the details, but we'll see how everything goes.
Agree, I have seen Exedy clutch fail in fully stock Prelude Si Vtec, not to mention amount of Exedy fails in GTRs, WRXs and TypeRs i had seen, dont recommend them...

I personally like Spoon, Toda or ATS, but I have OSGIKEN on my car and it is too harsh and dont like them...
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 04:27 AM
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Doesn't Exedy make the Clutch for Toda? So insint it the same clutch?

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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 04:33 AM
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yes they do...there are a few slight differences, but it is based on the same clutch
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 05:33 AM
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If you are not looking for bang for the buck, and just the best track/strip/street clutch/fllwheel... Its Toda hands down.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 07:12 AM
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TODA Power!!!!
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 07:44 AM
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Doesn't Exedy make the Clutch for Toda? So insint it the same clutch?
It's made by them...but the specifications and components that make up the clutch will vary. TODA uses a different friction material, and most likely has a few other items that they deem to be necessary to the production of their flywheel.
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