Does anyone have the stage 2 or stage 3 cams from Skunk2? How do people think they hold up against the Spec B's? Also, if I was to consider this upgrade, do I need more than just the Valve springs, ECU, and timing belt? I'm sort of new to the idea of upgrading cams, and i want to do it the right way the first time around. What kind of RPM range should I expect?

 

Humm, does anyone have the Skunk2's? Do they suck ?

 

check into crower stage 2's... cheaper.. and more durable.. and better HP I hear...

 

bump.

 

Skunk Stage 1's do the job for me. Stock valvetrain too.

 

Anyone have anything else to say about the Crower Vtec Race Core Stage 2? Would they produce more power than the Skunk2 stage 2?

 

I've seen a b18c1 put down 185, 135 with crower 2's and 11.? compression

 

Most people criticize Skunk 2 for their cams, I don't think they are that bad... I'd take them over Crower, but when it comes down to deciding between Skunk 2 and Toda, my vote goes for Toda 100%, all the time.

 

There is nothing wrong with the Skunks. If you have an R and want 190 hp get the skunks. Stock valvetrain, tuning and you done. No new timing belts, ecu is not needed.

Put down 193, 134 with stock ecu i,h,e and cam gear tuning.

 

You put down 193whp with cam gears, and bolt ons?! What bolt ons did you have? and what stage cams?

 

Stage 1s...

 

Stage 1's, Toda header. I made the same "peak" power with the JDM ITR 4-1. 2.5 custom exhaust and icebox. Tuning

 

So are you saying that with dyno tuning, cam gears, and a JDM 4-1 header, and Skunk 2 Stage 3s I can hit 200+whp without even trying?

 

Nooooo, with Stage 1's and bolt ons and real tuning = 190's. I no nothing about stage 2's or 3's.

 

stage 3 are race only cams. you would need a minimum of 12.5:1 compression to make those bumpsticks work..

REMEMBER this: a big cam dropped into your motor will not make a huge increase in power, you have to tune your car which takes time , money and patience.

A stage 1 is fine, I made 193 on 11:1 compression, they are an excellent street cam and make a lot of useable power to 8500 which is plenty of rpm.

The stage 2 are more aggressive and are similar to the JUN 3 cams, they make power to 9 easy and they require valvesprings, retainers, and more compression to work. they'll work on your stock compression but won't give you the results that are advertised, that goes for any big bumpstick

stage 3's are RACE ONLY, they are extremely hard on your valvetrain, and wont start making power to 5.5-6 grand and then make power probably upward to 10 grand. They are not streetable at all and aren't designed to be.

go to http://www.skunk2.com and read about it or call them if you have questions, they are nice guys and will stay on the phone as long as you want .

 

Im going to probably go with JE 11.5:1 pistons (made for the b18c5), with my head it will become about 12.1:1 or so. So far my top choice for cams are the skunk 2 stage 2 with the springs and retainers, and my ITR valves. This will all be tuned with Hondata and larger injectors. Will this be a good setup for the skunk 2 stage 2's?

Oh, will the skunk 2 stage 2 produce any more low end power? How high will they make power up to?


[Modified by InfamousRS, 11:57 AM 6/14/2002]

 

that will be perfect. I recommend getting a better header and nice 2.5 exhaust. should be a nice setup!

I'm going to be testing the stage 2's in my mild compression'd car now to see how much I can get with them, realistically I'm thinking mid to high 190's. I have type r pistons and stock gsr head ,t hat's it but my compression is strong and I have all my old parts when I was 13:1 compression.

 

Yeah, keep me posted. I very interested in what the 2's will do with proper tuning.

 

what i like about skunk cams is that they literally parallel your old graph making about 10 more hp all the way with more in the mid and a lot more up top. the best is that they idle perfect, you can play with your cam gears to get more low end if you want

 

What would you guys say the best cam is then for a stock compression motor, besides perhaps a Mugen Headgasket... I want cams that will yield the most power. I will be P&P my head, etc.

 

P&P with R cams & tuning will give you close to 190.

 

I would get some Toda Spec A's if you have the money. Dynos i have seen make more midrange and a little more top end then the skunk2 stage 1 cams. The skunk2 stage 1 is 750, and you can get toda As for like 850-900 bucks. Thats 100 bucks extra, i don't think thats much money especially when we are talking about internals for your engine. Not distrusting skunk2 or their products, but i would rather have a well-known japanese aftermarket company product instead of an american company product in my car.

 

skunk stage 1, toda A's, I'm sure stage 2' will work good with that p&p head, its all about flow baby.

THere is guy named Miguel here who had a stock itr engine with jun components and he made 207 to the wheels. He had their 1500 dollar ecu, I dont know if that has anything to do with it though, not sure if had their header either..

I feel as long as you have at least 11:1 compression or more you should be able to make numbers in the 190's easy with tuning of course. Anything's possible.

 

you can get skunk cams for 650 now. damn good deal for the money

 

Yeah then lower the vtec with a "Good Header" and you have killer mid range as well. My vtec is at 4800 right now and I still have the pop when it engages. I'll post a chart on Monday of my 197, 140 with stage 1's.