ok so i jus bout new headers for my ef9 and i got a poorman ctr in it...b17 block b16 head...now is the easiest way to put them in is too cut the crossmember to make the room or should i take off the crossmember and change the headers and bang out what room i need...jus finished the swap and i didnt even put radiator and all that **** in yet...what should i do

 

Do whatever you think is best. We can't tell you how to do it.

If you want to cut it all up first, you run the risk or cutting too much. Find out what you need to do before you cut. It's common sense.

 

PS: 4 cylinder Honda motors don't have "headers" they have a "header"

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tippyman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do whatever you think is best. We can't tell you how to do it.

If you want to cut it all up first, you run the risk or cutting too much. Find out what you need to do before you cut. It's common sense.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

exactly it annoys me that people say "headers" when there is obviously only one making it "header."

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iandavis90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">exactly it annoys me that people say "headers" when there is obviously only one making it "header."</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn right, just like "I just changed to Vtec heads" like they got a V8 B32 or something.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmEF8racer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so i jus bout new headers for my ef9 and i got a poorman ctr in it...b17 block b16 head...now is the easiest way to put them in is too cut the crossmember to make the room or should i take off the crossmember and change the headers and bang out what room i need...jus finished the swap and i didnt even put radiator and all that **** in yet...what should i do </TD></TR></TABLE>what i did was cut off the over hangin lip on the cross member, just the portion where the header is going to hit, then just dent in any clearence you might need, that extra metal on the lip is really not serving and purpose but by denting in the rest your really just moving the metal structure rather then compromising it by cutting it out

 

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that's a new term for me. isnt that just a B17?

 

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that's a new term for me. isnt that just a B17? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Aw, don't burst his bubble. His friend's cousin's uncle who works on Hondas told him that.

 

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that's a new term for me. isnt that just a B17? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah I think he's confused but I just did not menton that before. unless he actually has some CTR pistons in there with some cams to match though I doubt it. the B17 is still pretty much a B16 anyways

 

b17 is a b16 block.


ctr is a b18 block stamped B16b

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b17 is a b16 block.


ctr is a b18 block stamped B16b</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep

 

wow...this site is full of <FONT SIZE="3">fun loving guys</FONT> huh...but i bet none of you would try and pull some smart <FONT SIZE="3">honda stuff</FONT> if we where all face to face...bunch of <FONT SIZE="3">spectacular chaps you guys are</FONT>...and does it really matter if i say header or headers you know what iam talkin bout....and the b16 head is off a 2000 si witch really isnt much of a diffrence but still has some...but i cut the crossmember anyway b4 i read the replies...thanx anyway...and anyway a b17 and a higher dome hight than a b16a block

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmEF8racer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow...this site is full of ******** huh...but i bet none of you would try and pull some smart *** **** if we where all face to face...bunch of pussies...and does it really matter if i say header or headers you know what iam talkin bout....and the b16 head is off a 2000 si witch really isnt much of a diffrence but still has some...but i cut the crossmember anyway b4 i read the replies...thanx anyway...and anyway a b17 and a higher dome hight than a b16a block</TD></TR></TABLE>LOL!
That's my highschool year book pic. Still think you are MC badass online?

I'm more then tough only the power of Arrrrrrrrrnold or Danny Glover has EVER defeated me.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmEF8racer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow...this site is full of ******** huh...but i bet none of you would try and pull some smart *** **** if we where all face to face...bunch of pussies...and does it really matter if i say header or headers you know what iam talkin bout....and the b16 head is off a 2000 si witch really isnt much of a diffrence but still has some...but i cut the crossmember anyway b4 i read the replies...thanx anyway...and anyway a b17 and a higher dome hight than a b16a block</TD></TR></TABLE>

you need to get out more.


a 2000 si head casting is still a pr3. the only difference is the cams. which still arent all that great.

a b17 block is exactly the same as a b16, with a slightly longer stroke, making it 1.7L it still made 160hp from the factory with slightly more tq.


it is in no way like a b16b or a CTR.


please homie..... post your picture here on h-t so we all can see the toughie behind the keyboard.


BTW, a header on your little motor brought the power up slightly.... cutting your cross member will probably hurt performance. so, you did it for bling.

 

buy a traction bar dude. not only will you get tons of clearance for everything when the old cross members is gone, you wont have to fab and chop anything.

cutting that cross member is taking a risk. but do what you must within your budget (also traction bar will help keep your front tires planted better...my 0.02 cents)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmEF8racer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow...this site is full of ******** huh...but i bet none of you would try and pull some smart *** **** if we where all face to face...bunch of pussies...and does it really matter if i say header or headers you know what iam talkin bout....and the b16 head is off a 2000 si witch really isnt much of a diffrence but still has some...but i cut the crossmember anyway b4 i read the replies...thanx anyway...and anyway a b17 and a higher dome hight than a b16a block</TD></TR></TABLE>

You are a phunny little phucker aren't you?

Higher dome height.......holy ****, what are you even smoking, cause I want some.

You dont know jack **** about engines, do you?

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you need to get out more.


a 2000 si head casting is still a pr3. the only difference is the cams. which still arent all that great.

a b17 block is exactly the same as a b16, with a slightly longer stroke, making it 1.7L it still made 160hp from the factory with slightly more tq.


it is in no way like a b16b or a CTR.


please homie..... post your picture here on h-t so we all can see the toughie behind the keyboard.


BTW, a header on your little motor brought the power up slightly.... cutting your cross member will probably hurt performance. so, you did it for bling. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That about sums it up jackass....

 

Wow...this one was like a Mad Lib.