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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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My '97 Civic LX has started making a strange noise. I notice when the car is in neutral without the clutch depressed, there is some extra noise coming from the engine, it sounds almost like a wheel spinning free. When the clutch is depressed, it goes away. I notice a sound when driving as well. Anyone know what this could relate to? Hoping it's not the clutch going..
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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Does it happen when u push the clutch in or does it go away
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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sounds like a throw out bearing.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by standbackimapro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does it happen when u push the clutch in or does it go away</TD></TR></TABLE>

It goes away when I push the clutch in.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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i got the exact same prob, posted the same time you did haha
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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I had the same thing when I had my old motor/tranny/clutch, when I replaced them it went away haha.. Does it sound like a grinding noise when your driving?
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had the same thing when I had my old motor/tranny/clutch, when I replaced them it went away haha.. Does it sound like a grinding noise when your driving?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not a grinding noise.. just sounds like the engine/transmission is louder. This is a 5-speed by the way.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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its definitly the throw out bearing
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WhiteEKgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its definitly the throw out bearing</TD></TR></TABLE>

how expensive is the throw out bearing to replace?
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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Also, does anyone know how much a an average clutch replacement will cost for this car?
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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price out a clutch kit either stock or aftermarket
aftermarket being cheaper the TO bearing will come with it i charge around 500 for labor
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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got the same problem going on...98 civic manual....

sound goes away only when the clutch is pushed in...
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 06:06 AM
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Anyone know how much it will be to just replace the throw out bearing?
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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ive looked up since i got the same prob, throwout bearing is about $60 from summitracing and an exedy stage one clutch is about $330, yours might be a little more since i have a 92
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chaser4dr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone know how much it will be to just replace the throw out bearing?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You generally don't replace JUST the throwout bearing, it's usually the "clutch kit" which is clutch, pressure plate, and throwout bearing.

Sounds to me like a possible input shaft bearing - but I could be wrong. How many miles are on the clutch?
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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You generally don't replace JUST the throwout bearing, it's usually the "clutch kit" which is clutch, pressure plate, and throwout bearing.QUOTE]

i didnt know it came with the bearing as well, would it be a good thing to upgrade the flywheel as well?
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lil_Wyte &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i didnt know it came with the bearing as well, would it be a good thing to upgrade the flywheel as well?</TD></TR></TABLE>

MOST (not all) clutch kits come with the pressure plate, clutch, and throwout bearing, I've seen some with and with just the clutch and pressure plate though.

If you wanna upgrade to a lighter flywheel that's your call. It WON'T increase HP (though it is possible to make it accelerate faster due to the faster tansfer of energy), but the car should feel a bit more responsive.

I'm pretty sure if you lighten a flywheel too much something bad happens .

I forgot what, but too light of a flywheel is bad if I remember correctly. I think the stock's like a 13lbs flywheel in there or something to that effect. An 11lb or 10 lbs would make it feel nice and that's not lightening it too much.

Though I'm not sure if the money is worth it if everything else is stock.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You generally don't replace JUST the throwout bearing, it's usually the "clutch kit" which is clutch, pressure plate, and throwout bearing.

Sounds to me like a possible input shaft bearing - but I could be wrong. How many miles are on the clutch?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was thinking it could be the ISB also. That was my problem on my old tranny.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I was thinking it could be the ISB also. That was my problem on my old tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>
x2

i also had isb probs, and when i ripped apart the trans, the throwout bearing was bad too, as well as the third gear synchro, so i got a new 3rd/4th gearset.

but generally, if you have the trans and clutch separated, why go through all the drama again? just replace everything and keep the old ones or sell them.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm pretty sure if you lighten a flywheel too much something bad happens .

I forgot what, but too light of a flywheel is bad if I remember correctly. I think the stock's like a 13lbs flywheel in there or something to that effect. An 11lb or 10 lbs would make it feel nice and that's not lightening it too much.
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well, you should only get a lightened flywheel according to your clutch. for example, you would be stupid to get an 8lb flywheel with a stock clutch. 8lb flywheel would be good with a 6puck / sprung.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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i concur its your throw out bearing. Replace your pilot bearing as well. . . you'll be sorry if don't because when it goes out and your have to tear your car apart again.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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<FONT SIZE="6">IT IS <FONT COLOR="red">NOT</FONT> THE RELEASE BEARING.</FONT>

The release bearing won't make any noise when the clutch is fully engaged (pedal out), therefore it is not the release bearing.

If you take the advice of anyone here (except myself, Syndacate, and CapnKrunch) and drop the transmission to replace only the release bearing, you're going to get it all back together and realize the noise is still there.

You're going to have to drop the transmission, split the cases, and replace the input shaft bearing(s). See this guide for help: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=596873

Now while you're in there, it's certainly not a bad idea to also replace the release bearing, pilot bearing, clutch disc, pressure plate, and to have the flywheel resurfaced.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr x civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, you should only get a lightened flywheel according to your clutch. for example, you would be stupid to get an 8lb flywheel with a stock clutch. 8lb flywheel would be good with a 6puck / sprung. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Umm, no. Just shut up now.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><FONT SIZE="6">IT IS <FONT COLOR="red">NOT</FONT> THE RELEASE BEARING.</FONT>

The release bearing won't make any noise when the clutch is fully engaged (pedal out), therefore it is not the release bearing.

If you take the advice of anyone here (except myself, Syndacate, and CapnKrunch) and drop the transmission to replace only the release bearing, you're going to get it all back together and realize the noise is still there.

You're going to have to drop the transmission, split the cases, and replace the input shaft bearing(s). See this guide for help: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=596873

Now while you're in there, it's certainly not a bad idea to also replace the release bearing, pilot bearing, clutch disc, pressure plate, and to have the flywheel resurfaced.</TD></TR></TABLE>
listen to this guy!

I had the same problem last year. I took my car to 3 different mechanics they all told me it was the input shaft bearing(s).
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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Indeed. someone that knows what they're talking about.

where'd the weirdo come from with the lightweight flyhweel only work with 6puck logic? lol.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkyeC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Indeed. someone that knows what they're talking about.
where'd the weirdo come from with the lightweight flyhweel only work with 6puck logic? lol.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol. yeah my fault. iwas really tired when i posted a response.

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Umm, no. Just shut up now.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol. will do chief.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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I'm takin the car to my mechanic tommorow expecting him to recommend a new clutch..
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