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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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Okay i need some info on this swap for a friend. I know i need a obd 2 conversion harness to obd 1 , and a obd 1 ecu. And i know how to convert the harness in the lude to use an internal Dizzy. But is it possible to keep ATTS by using the SH tranny on the jdm h22a?
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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no. The atts unit is located on the back of the block, not on the tranny. That should answer your question.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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thanks 98Vtec
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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okay i have one more question, what do i need to buy to put a Jdm h22a into the 98 SH, its a shell so i dont have another motor to switch things from the h22A4 to h22a
oh yea i will be using an H23 tranny by the way

Are these all the parts i need?

distributor $100
oil pump $150
oil pan and baffle $200
intermediate shaft $50
lower timing cover
complete intake manifold $200
header
PS pump and mount $100
Alt and mount $100
AC comp and mount $200
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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almost, your gonna need an SH Crank Sensor which is costly, Also An SH Crank Gear, And SH Harmonic Balancer. The balancer and crank gear ar needed because they have little notches in them that the crank sensors that attach to your oil pump read as the two gears spin. this lets them read when your engine hits top dead center if you dont get these two gears with the sensor and use your old ones your motor will start and die after like 2 seconds so be sure to get them. thats all i can think of for now ill let u no if i remember anything else.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 12:20 AM
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oh ya.......

external coil= $75
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 06:47 AM
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Is it really worth it, to buy all of this? I'm getting a 98 sh shell for 3500$ with 115,000 miles, mint exterior, mint interior ?
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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do you need to do all that if you are going to be running hondata on the unit anyway ?
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 06:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jaskuloski97sh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">almost, your gonna need an SH Crank Sensor which is costly, Also An SH Crank Gear, And SH Harmonic Balancer. The balancer and crank gear ar needed because they have little notches in them that the crank sensors that attach to your oil pump read as the two gears spin. this lets them read when your engine hits top dead center if you dont get these two gears with the sensor and use your old ones your motor will start and die after like 2 seconds so be sure to get them. thats all i can think of for now ill let u no if i remember anything else.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why do you need the SH crank pulley. Those notches i believe have nothing to do with anything but checking your timing but as far as the engine running i dont think it should have any affect on it.

Also is the SH CKP different than the base ? And what is different about the oil pump ?
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LukieLuc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it really worth it, to buy all of this? I'm getting a 98 sh shell for 3500$ with 115,000 miles, mint exterior, mint interior ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
?
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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no u can;t have the atts unit with a JDM h22a, the pil filter gets in the way...
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LukieLuc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay i have one more question, what do i need to buy to put a Jdm h22a into the 98 SH, its a shell so i dont have another motor to switch things from the h22A4 to h22a
oh yea i will be using an H23 tranny by the way

Are these all the parts i need?

distributor $100
oil pump $150
oil pan and baffle $200
intermediate shaft $50
lower timing cover
complete intake manifold $200
header
PS pump and mount $100
Alt and mount $100
AC comp and mount $200
</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have a ps pump and mount if you want it. Ill sell it for cehaper than 100 too....

also, you want to check the mounts on a 5th gen prelude, as they are different from the 4th gen prelude. does he have the mounts??
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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4th gen mounts...



5th gen mounts....

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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LukieLuc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it really worth it, to buy all of this? I'm getting a 98 sh shell for 3500$ with 115,000 miles, mint exterior, mint interior ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

just get an obd2 oil pump, it has the crank sensor in it...
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lude98SH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Also is the SH CKP different than the base ? And what is different about the oil pump ? </TD></TR></TABLE>


obd2 oil pump has the crank sensor while the crank sensor is in the obd1 distributor...
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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BUT Is it really worth it, to buy all of this? I'm getting a 98 sh shell for 3500$ with 115,000 miles, mint exterior, mint interior ?
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LukieLuc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BUT Is it really worth it, to buy all of this? I'm getting a 98 sh shell for 3500$ with 115,000 miles, mint exterior, mint interior ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

sure it is, i see clean title 5th gens with that mileage go for 7-8k around here
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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the sensors are not in the oil pump they bolt on to it and the magnet piece on each sensor point ot the crank gear and harmonic balancer. those two items have notchis in them so those sensors can read them some how, not sure exactly what the notches do but if you dont believe me there was a thread were a guy put everything but the two gears im speaking of and his car would start and die right away then he switched the gears from jdm to SH and it fixed that problem. id say doing this would be worth it.
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