Ok I have a spoon chiped H22a motor and it has been at hi rpms a few times when racing on the track.Now it has a loud clacking noise thats sound like compming from the head possibly.What might this be.Mind you that the engine itself has not been upgraded any internally to my knowledge before I got the motor.Any help in this matter is greatly appreciated.


Modified by importwarriorsi at 8:16 PM 7/18/2007

 

whats hi RPM's

 

From 7,800 to 9,800 and yes that is correct. 105mph in second gear.

 

Dude.....H motors loose there power band after 7.5 to 7.8 rpm's. Im sure you spun a rod bearing and your crank, rods, & block are done.

 

Is the knock a continuous knock throughout the RPM range? Does it knock at low RPM, go away in mid, and come back in Higher RPMs? If you are sure the noise is from the head, try running some better oil through it... Could just be noisy lifters, but it sounds to me like something else if you were revving it that high.

 

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1) that completely stupid
2) your car was never tuned....stupid
3) your racing with a chip to 9k+...on a stock motor....stupid

do a valve adjustment



good luck with that.

 

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so where is the question? you are fcked son!

 

bent valves for sure and maybe some bearing issues.

 

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spun bearing. rod knock is what you hear..... why rev to 9800 on an H series. no power up there especially with stock cams???

 

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spun bearing. rod knock is what you hear..... why rev to 9800 on an H series. no power up there especially with stock cams??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

More than likely the stock head will fail before the bearings do. Maybe he has a little of both?

 

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do a valve adjustment



good luck with that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Or maybe a rod adjustment

 

Thank you for the commits that’s what I kind of figured.
I just wanted to ask a few more opinions before I replaced the cams and such with better parts that can handle it. The car was never driven after the sound of the clacking. It was trailerd home and parked until I got time to replace the parts with a better set up for my all motor civic.Just like the time I snapped both axles on take off now that’s a thing of the past.And for the record how do you know where redline hits until you test it a few times to see where you stand for more improvements to an all motor application.The car was bought with all the goodies inside so you got to find out the limits.Thanks again everyone for the comments and put downs.I figured I would get both lol.

 

its called dyno tuning. when the power drops off, stop revving. and you surely cant rev 2000 RPM past a redline and think its safe. use your brain.

 

No **** been there done that.

 

seeming as u bought the car like that, and Skunk2 def. wouldnt let a H rev to 9800 or we, i bet the thing has a B ECU.Or skunk2 didnt do anything and some smuck just chipped ur ECU and removed the Rev limit.


Whatever the case, GL.Be ready to spend some doe.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by importwarriorsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thank you for the commits that’s what I kind of figured.
I just wanted to ask a few more opinions before I replaced the cams and such with better parts that can handle it. The car was never driven after the sound of the clacking. It was trailerd home and parked until I got time to replace the parts with a better set up for my all motor civic.Just like the time I snapped both axles on take off now that’s a thing of the past.And for the record how do you know where redline hits until you test it a few times to see where you stand for more improvements to an all motor application.The car was bought with all the goodies inside so you got to find out the limits.Thanks again everyone for the comments and put downs.I figured I would get both lol.
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but if the motor was internally stock then there is no need to "find out the limits" a stock motor has a stock revlimit for a reason. i would say ditch the old chip and get one better suited for your engine.

im betting on bearing failure. drain your oil and see if its got some bling to it.

 

ditch the pos chip in general and get the ******* engine tuned correctly. If you arent willing to do that, get a stock ecu.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ditch the pos chip in general and get the ******* engine tuned correctly. If you arent willing to do that, get a stock ecu.</TD></TR></TABLE>

whatever, my G-tech showed mAd gAiNs yO

 

the whole - can't learn without making mistakes idea works to a point - but
mistake management helps too good luck finding your redline
bro I found it plenty times with accidental downshifts before I learned
how to do it

 

Well either way Im probably going to sell it anyway just dont have the time to fool with it work is really getting buzy now and would just rather sell as is and make space in my carport to close it off for another addition to my house.
Car is in NC if anyone is intrested.Heres what is in the car.
JDM H22a PRELUDE VTEC MOTOR SPOON CHIPPED P28 ECU
COMPLETE OBD1 CIVIC WIRE HARNESS WITH CLUSTER
DIRECT PORT HEADERSAPEXi MUFFLER UNDER THE DRIVERS SEAT
CUSTOM AXELS STAGE 5 CLUTCH MASTERS CLUTCH
WELDED DIFF FOR FULL TIME POSI BDL68MM THROTTLE BODY
WALBRO 342 FUEL PUMPFUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR WITH GAUGE
UNORTHDOX RACING PULLEYS CUSTOM MOTOR MOUNTS
CUSTOM FRONT TRACTION BARS 70 HP SHOT OF NOS 4 FOGGER
THE NOS BOTTLE IS NOT INCLUDED. I will let it go for 2800 obo.
Or will trade for a 91 to 95 civic hatchback or jeep auto or 5 speed with 500 cash.






Modified by importwarriorsi at 8:41 PM 7/18/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by importwarriorsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well either way Im probably going to sell it anyway just dont have the time to fool with it work is really getting buzy now and would just rather sell as is and make space in my carport to close it off for another addition to my house.
Car is in NC if anyone is intrested.Heres what is in the car.
JDM H22a PRELUDE VTEC MOTOR SPOON CHIPPED P28 ECU
COMPLETE OBD1 CIVIC WIRE HARNESS WITH CLUSTER
DIRECT PORT HEADERSAPEXi MUFFLER UNDER THE DRIVERS SEAT
CUSTOM AXELS STAGE 5 CLUTCH MASTERS CLUTCH
WELDED DIFF FOR FULL TIME POSI BDL68MM THROTTLE BODY
WALBRO 342 FUEL PUMPFUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR WITH GAUGE
UNORTHDOX RACING PULLEYS CUSTOM MOTOR MOUNTS
CUSTOM FRONT TRACTION BARS 70 HP SHOT OF NOS 4 FOGGER
THE NOS BOTTLE IS NOT INCLUDED. I will let it go for 2800 obo.
Or will trade for a 91 to 95 civic hatchback or jeep auto or 5 speed with 500 cash.





Modified by importwarriorsi at 8:41 PM 7/18/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

goodluck letting go a primered ef with a blown h22 for 2800



Modified by projectTeG at 5:20 PM 7/19/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by importwarriorsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well either way Im probably going to sell it anyway just dont have the time to fool with it work is really getting buzy now and would just rather sell as is and make space in my carport to close it off for another addition to my house.
Car is in NC if anyone is intrested.Heres what is in the car.
JDM H22a PRELUDE VTEC MOTOR SPOON CHIPPED P28 ECU
COMPLETE OBD1 CIVIC WIRE HARNESS WITH CLUSTER
DIRECT PORT HEADERSAPEXi MUFFLER UNDER THE DRIVERS SEAT
CUSTOM AXELS STAGE 5 CLUTCH MASTERS CLUTCH
WELDED DIFF FOR FULL TIME POSI BDL68MM THROTTLE BODY
WALBRO 342 FUEL PUMPFUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR WITH GAUGE
UNORTHDOX RACING PULLEYS CUSTOM MOTOR MOUNTS
CUSTOM FRONT TRACTION BARS 70 HP SHOT OF NOS 4 FOGGER
THE NOS BOTTLE IS NOT INCLUDED.
Modified by importwarriorsi at 8:41 PM 7/18/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

you kinda forgot to mention in your first post that you were squeezing on it... and a direct port kit too. kinda has a lot to do with the clacking noise if you were on the bottle at 9800 rpms on a stock h22... surprised it didnt chuck the rod out the side of the block......

 

Well since I have had the car it has not had a bottle hooked up to it and it has never been sprayed since I have had the car. The stuff that I have listed was on the car when I bought it and I just drove it from time to time and a few times at the track with no problems what so ever for over 3 months.Well minus a snapping of axles.The last time I drove the car was at the track with no nitro running threw the car and thats when the problem with this car happend.It has been parked ever since.I am being completly honest with what I have posted.Yes the car has been sprayed Im guessing once or twice before i had it but ran perfect when I bought it and now due to my racing it at the track and only there thats where the problem occured.And where did you get I was squezzing on it when I bought the car this way without a bottle.I dont like nitrous never have.A buddy of mine wanted the kit off my car but faild to pay for it so its still on the car.I may have redlined it a few times but im not that damn stupid.





Modified by importwarriorsi at 10:37 PM 7/18/2007

 

did that car use to be painted camo?

 

the engine was on the way out that must be why they sold it.
its not worth more that $1600 max. thats 2800 minus a clean h22
give or take