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Need a temporary fix for 5th gear tranny grind...

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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 07:11 PM
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Already searched and nobody asked about a quick-fix for the grind... I'm assuming my syncho is bad since it only occurs in 5th gear, but will refill and check the tranny fluid next weekend. Currently using Redline MTL.

Is there any quick-fix I can use to ease the problem/grinding so I can drive on this longer before getting a h-series swap?

Thicker oil like 10w40? 20w50? Or, if its possible, to overfill the tranny in case not enough oil is in there? I filled it w/ the car level on jackstands, what would happen if i jackup either the front or rear more?
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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Have you tried double clutching into fifth?
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 08:36 PM
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yea, it helps, but it still has that "click" feel going into gear sometimes, so I know things are still clashing against each other =|. Anyway a particular type of gear oil will help?
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 09:27 PM
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Its not the syncro. Its the shift fork, sleeve set and actual gear. All were not engineered properly and are faulty. This is not a recall, but there is a service bulletin since it is a common problem for 90-97 F and 92-02 H motors. Im going to get mine fixed when my tranny is out. Redline MTF supposedly helps.
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 10:35 PM
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Its not the syncro. Its the shift fork, sleeve set and actual gear. All were not engineered properly and are faulty. This is not a recall, but there is a service bulletin since it is a common problem for 90-97 F and 92-02 H motors. Im going to get mine fixed when my tranny is out. Redline MTF supposedly helps.
argh... i was hoping to replace this w/ an 92+ h23/h22 tranny

What exactly is this "fix" is there an updated part that doesnt have this issue? or do you just replace it w/ an OEM one and hope it doesnt happen again?
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 10:36 PM
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so you just replace the shift fork, sleeve set and actual gear and it'll be fixed?
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 09:53 AM
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so you just replace the shift fork, sleeve set and actual gear and it'll be fixed?
yes. Its alot of work though, not something I would try alone. The mechanic that is helping me with my swap wont even touch it. Im giving it to the mechanic whose specialty is trannys. I have a copy of the service bulletin i found in a service bulletin book at work. (honda) I will try to scan it this week. It has part numbers etc so you can order up the parts.
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 10:20 AM
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I read this was a problem with 5th gen Accords and 4th gen Preludes, not the latter models?
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 12:00 PM
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Its not the syncro. Its the shift fork, sleeve set and actual gear. All were not engineered properly and are faulty. This is not a recall, but there is a service bulletin since it is a common problem for 90-97 F and 92-02 H motors. Im going to get mine fixed when my tranny is out. Redline MTF supposedly helps.
Yes, it's a defect from the factory that Honda didn't pick up on in time (mainly since they didn't produce that many manual trannies for the Accord line. The 5th gear shift fork had a tip break off at 26K at jam itself into the reverse gear. Ouch. Since the 5th gear is pretty tall in our gearboxes, you might want to double-check your tranny fluid level and at a little bit more tranny oil.
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