Shocks: kyb-gr2 vs tokiko hp accord 2005
I put a set of the GR-2 on my 1994 about 5 years ago. I did not like them-they were mushy and non-responsive, just like the OEM shocks.
Last year I completely gutted the suspension. I did not want to lower the car much (heavy snows/rough streets and highways around here), I needed to keep enough clearance. I did some research, and decided to go with the HR Sport springs and the Tokiko HP struts.
At the same time, I replaced or rebuilt every bushing, control arm, bushing-links in the frame, using the Energy Suspension kit for the front. They did not make a kit for the rear, so I replaced all the suspension parts (control arms/etc) with OEM Honda.
I have read some negative postings for the Tokiko struts. The problem seems to be some kids just have to lower the car to the extreme, and have to stay with the "in" brands. After 30+ years working on suspensions, I am very impressed with the Tokiko struts, for the money I paid.
The combo of the ES bushings, with the Tokiko struts and HR springs is awesome. The car lowered (off before/after measurements and with the tire/rim package I installed) right at about 1". The car handles very tight, and is very responsive and agile. But the car still rides smoothly, with almost zero harshness from rough pavements. It is slightly stiffer, but doeas not have a harsh ride or "chop" on the freeway.
Consider where you live before setting up a suspension. I originally bought this car new in SoCal. In areas where streets/freeways are glass-smooth you can get away with dropping a suspension and running very low-profile tires. Around here the mechanics (especially tire/suspension/exhaust) laugh about all the work they get from damage to over-lowered and "weak" rims. Torn up tires, damaged suspensions, exhausts torn apart. They have seen it all. And the streets/freeways around here are about average for US cites with winter cold/ snow.
Most US city roads are not glass-smooth like race tracks, so consider the type roads (and need for snow-clearance) as the main consideration for suspension/rim+tire design. Bad decisions will lead to damage and $$$$ ans possibly a harsh, choppy ride. Wrenchy
Last year I completely gutted the suspension. I did not want to lower the car much (heavy snows/rough streets and highways around here), I needed to keep enough clearance. I did some research, and decided to go with the HR Sport springs and the Tokiko HP struts.
At the same time, I replaced or rebuilt every bushing, control arm, bushing-links in the frame, using the Energy Suspension kit for the front. They did not make a kit for the rear, so I replaced all the suspension parts (control arms/etc) with OEM Honda.
I have read some negative postings for the Tokiko struts. The problem seems to be some kids just have to lower the car to the extreme, and have to stay with the "in" brands. After 30+ years working on suspensions, I am very impressed with the Tokiko struts, for the money I paid.
The combo of the ES bushings, with the Tokiko struts and HR springs is awesome. The car lowered (off before/after measurements and with the tire/rim package I installed) right at about 1". The car handles very tight, and is very responsive and agile. But the car still rides smoothly, with almost zero harshness from rough pavements. It is slightly stiffer, but doeas not have a harsh ride or "chop" on the freeway.
Consider where you live before setting up a suspension. I originally bought this car new in SoCal. In areas where streets/freeways are glass-smooth you can get away with dropping a suspension and running very low-profile tires. Around here the mechanics (especially tire/suspension/exhaust) laugh about all the work they get from damage to over-lowered and "weak" rims. Torn up tires, damaged suspensions, exhausts torn apart. They have seen it all. And the streets/freeways around here are about average for US cites with winter cold/ snow.
Most US city roads are not glass-smooth like race tracks, so consider the type roads (and need for snow-clearance) as the main consideration for suspension/rim+tire design. Bad decisions will lead to damage and $$$$ ans possibly a harsh, choppy ride. Wrenchy
thanx man, the roads are ok around here, but my car is not lowered and, i'm not planing on lowering it, and like i said i don't think i want stiffness out of suspensions. So i think i will buy kyb-gr2.
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