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I just installed 96 acura integra abs spindles on 95 civic cs hatch steering problem!!!!

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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I just installed 96 acura integra abs spindles on my 95 civic cx hatchback and now I cant even steer the damn thing the car is swirly as hell WTF!! has anyone ever heard of this before I mean seriously what would cause this? I didnt have this much trouble with my stock cx spindles? Why?
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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Are the lower balljoints still good? Did you get an alignment afterwards?
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Did your CX come with ABS? theres a reason they make axles for cars WITH abs and WITHOUT abs.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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no but 2 people already said that abs wouldnt matter if you threw it on its brakes just fine its just loose as **** for some reason. Lets put it this way I ran into a ditch on the side of the road thats how loose it is I cant figure it out.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Markb16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no but 2 people already said that abs wouldnt matter if you threw it on its brakes just fine its just loose as **** for some reason. Lets put it this way I ran into a ditch on the side of the road thats how loose it is I cant figure it out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im fairly sure there is a difference between the both, but im not 100% on that. Maybe someone can confirm this. This post seems like Deja vu, someone else has posted this before somewhere......
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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well 94-01 integra thats what you have to use right? for eg models so I mean you cant use 90-93 spindles or can you because Ialready spent money for rotors and brake pads for them and I dont understand I am about to replace my stock spindles.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97Ej6mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Im fairly sure there is a difference between the both, but im not 100% on that. Maybe someone can confirm this. This post seems like Deja vu, someone else has posted this before somewhere...... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Only difference is that ABS axles have this ring thing at the end, which will NOT affect how the car steers. I have Integra ABS knuckles on my Civic with ABS axles, and have no problems.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Markb16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well 94-01 integra thats what you have to use right? for eg models so I mean you cant use 90-93 spindles or can you because Ialready spent money for rotors and brake pads for them and I dont understand I am about to replace my stock spindles.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, 94-01 Integra. The rotors will work on the 94-01 Integra knuckle, but the 90-93 calipers are different and can't use those pads, unless you have 90-93 calipers in which you can install onto 94-01 Integra knuckles.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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so would a 90-93 knuckle work? for a eg that is. Would it be thast my rack and pinion is bad or something?
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Its likely your alignment. Go get it aligned and it will steer straight.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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yeah if I could even make it out of my front yard I probaly cant even go over 30 miles per hour its just so loose I am scared to drive it right now
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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then drive it slow with the hazard lights on to the closest alignment place or tow it.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Default Knuckles in Front, Spindles in Rear...

Wait a second... Let's set this thread straight...

To the OP: Are you talkin about the Front or the Rear???

For the Rear... The Hub/Bearing Assembly moves <FONT COLOR="red">around</FONT> the Spindle in the rear... From the center of rotation, outward: Spindle, Bearing Inner Race, Bearing Outter Race, Hub (& Rotor & Wheel).

For the Front... The H/BA moves <FONT COLOR="red">within</FONT> the Knuckle in the in the Front... From the center of rotation, outward: Drive Axle, Hub (& Rotor & Wheel), Bearing Inner Race, Bearing Outter Race, Knuckle.

So, what, exactly, was switched? From what to what? Details, important details, are still missing...
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<FONT COLOR="white">NINJA</FONT> Anyone with "Knuckles in the Rear" is someone I wouldn't want to be associated with...
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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no all I did was switch my stock cx spindles to ls integra spindles now its just loose as **** and I cant even steer the car thats all in the front that is.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Markb16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in the front that is.</TD></TR></TABLE>OK then...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Markb16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no all I did was switch my stock cx Knuckles to ls integra Knuckles now its just loose as **** and I cant even steer the car thats all.</TD></TR></TABLE>So if you only changed Knuckles, then the Hub/Bearing Assembly that spins within it is too small, and will have too much room to move. Your staked Axle Nut, your Brake Hoses, and your Caliper are the only thing keeping your Wheel from flying off...

Am I the only one here who fears this? Maybe I'm getting something wrong, but this is a bad situation...

Raise one of the front corners of your car so that the Wheel comes off the ground, and wiggle it... just a little bit (ACID GROOVE! ). Then wiggle it a lot. Put your hands at 3 & 9, then at 12 & 6. If your Wheel wobbles excessively, then you need to get your old parts back on there, if you can. The Front Hub/Bearing/Knuckle is a bitch without the proper tools. Get checked out, man

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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naw my spindle dont do anything like that my rim dont move at all. everything is fine and tight I mean I had ls spindles on my crx and I have no problems whatsoever but when it come to my eg I just tryied the 94-01 spindles and wow there is something different or something about these spindles. i think I might replace my stock spindles for a uncontrollable car.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JasonGhostz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your staked Axle Nut, your Brake Hoses, and your Caliper are the only thing keeping your Wheel from flying off...</TD></TR></TABLE>I hope you staked your Axle Nut...

1995 Honda Civic 3DR CX MT: Front Brake (Bearing = 44300-S04-004)
http://slhondaparts.com/browse...81%29
http://c2c.activant.com/ctoc/i...IUj0A
Outter Diameter: 2.874

1996 Acura Integra 3DR LS MT: Front Brake (Bearing = 44300-S5A-004)
http://www.acuraoemparts.com/d...ch=no
http://c2c.activant.com/ctoc/i...KVz0A
Outter Diameter: 3.1102

Hope this helps...
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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huh I dont get it they should be the same right?
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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does anyone know if I can use 90-93 spindles non abs? the reason that I changed my spindles is because i got into a accident but there was no frame damage but I am pretty sure that the passenger side spindle is bent a lil thats y I went ahead and did the ls brake swap.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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Check your tie rod ends, inners and outers. Fool.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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I checked them there all good I mean thats what steers your car. I think I might just put it back the way it way since everything I touch I expletive it up
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Markb16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats y I went ahead and did the ls brake swap.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Markb16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got into a accident...</TD></TR></TABLE>I hope everything's all right...

I would consider each of these little tidbits as very relevant information. The order of events is very important as well. That is, did you ever drive this car in between your accident and your "Brake Swap"? If so, how did your car behave?

Pics are long overdue. Point out which parts came off, and what went on. Unless you want to continue to receive vague suggestions on how to correct your evolving problems, then you'll need to be more detailed about what you've done. GL
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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just get an alignment, how hard is that? when you remove the front knuckle, an alignment is required
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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well if its nothe the alignment then I am out of 70 dollars then. But I hope thats the problem
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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problem solved It did need a alignment and the tires were showing wires from being overinflation according to what the haynes manual said and I went to go get a alignment and 2 new tires rides fine. thanks I didnt know that is what it was for my car being that bad. Thanks Guys
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