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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Had a quick question about lowering your car. If you drop your car on springs, do you still need to get a camber kit setup, or is that only if you get coilovers? I know your wheels will tilt without a camber kit, but was just wondering if you needed a camber kit either way.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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I'm thinking about picking up the Eibach Pro-Kit which offers a 1.5 drop in the front, and a 1.3 drop in the back.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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gettin camber kit depends on how much you're dropped... i'm dropped like 2.5-3 inches on coilovers and i only have one in the rear front is fine... it's negative camber but it's fine

as for your other question it doesn't matter if its springs or coilovers just depends on the drop
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:27 AM
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Alright thanks. Good answers to my question.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 02:12 AM
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I went with H&R sport, and had to shim the rear and adjustable upper ball joint up front.
good luck
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:17 AM
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dont need camber kit just get allignment and get the toe set to 0 and you'll be fine
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikeycivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont need camber kit just get allignment and get the toe set to 0 and you'll be fine </TD></TR></TABLE>

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the older Hondas (like this specific forum) aren't equipped from the factory with alignment correction.

I'd recommend the Skunk2 camber kits (you can take the cheap route for the rear and do the washer trick), and then get an alignment AND your toe corrected.

Do your tires a favor.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:47 AM
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older forum? 92-00 what year is his car? He wont need a camber kit
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:50 AM
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This is the '92-'00 forum, so I'm assuming his is in that range.

I know that my '94 Civic DX didn't come from the factory with alignment correction.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:50 AM
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JKov240 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I know that my '94 Civic DX didn't come from the factory with alignment correction.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Most ALL cars come with factory toe adjustment correction.

It's camber correction that cars don't come with.

Camber kit Shmamber kit.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikeycivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont need camber kit just get allignment and get the toe set to 0 and you'll be fine</TD></TR></TABLE>

Friend has that and hes almost tucking rims, for 2 years now. Let some tire PSI out too, he has NO wear whatsoever

No need for any "camber" kit, lol
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JKov240 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the older Hondas (like this specific forum) aren't equipped from the factory with alignment correction.

I'd recommend the Skunk2 camber kits (you can take the cheap route for the rear and do the washer trick), and then get an alignment AND your toe corrected.

Do your tires a favor.
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looks like you been corrected
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Most ALL cars come with factory toe adjustment correction.

It's camber correction that cars don't come with.

Camber kit Shmamber kit. </TD></TR></TABLE>


I may be digging myself a hole, but oh well.

Camber is the tilt of the tire inwards or outwards correct? Whenever you lower a car, the tires tilt inwards, correct?

I know when I first had my car lowered on Eibach Sportlines the negative camber was ridiculous and I could see the wear on my tires from driving it ONE DAY without it being aligned. When I put my drop kit on, I also put some new tie rod ends on and got both the camber corrected AND the tow adjusted to 0 degrees.

Since then I haven't seen any abnormal tire wear and my tires are perfectly vertical.

That's my personal experience, but I know that both the camber and the tow being out of whack isn't good for tires.

But I know the camber kits did something

EDIT: ek forever guy, I meant to add in that most cars don't come with camber adjustment from the factory, but they do come with tow adjustment, my bad
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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this is camber /[]\

edit: this is toe (from top of car) \[]/
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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It might be just me, but looking at that, it gives the appearance that camber would be more detrimental as opposed to tow (although neither are "good").


You're talking about only a small section of your tires coming into REAL contact with the road...get where I'm coming from?

You can probably get by without a camber kit, but I know that I can't afford tires to that extreme.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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I ran negative camber on my front/rear wheels for a year and a half on my first car, with no uneven wear at all.

The SMALLEST amount of toe will eat tires like there's no tomorrow.

Many people run negative camber for the boost in handling capabilities.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JKov240 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It might be just me, but looking at that, it gives the appearance that camber would be more detrimental as opposed to tow (although neither are "good").


You're talking about only a small section of your tires coming into REAL contact with the road...get where I'm coming from?

You can probably get by without a camber kit, but I know that I can't afford tires to that extreme.</TD></TR></TABLE>

who needs tires anyway ride em on the rimz
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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get your toe set to 0 and let some psi out of your tires so they make full contact...not to mention heds getting an eibach pro kit and that barely even constitutes a drop in the first place.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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With the Eibach Pro-Kit, you won't need a camber kit, just get an alignment like everyone said.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I ran negative camber on my front/rear wheels for a year and a half on my first car, with no uneven wear at all.

The SMALLEST amount of toe will eat tires like there's no tomorrow.

Many people run negative camber for the boost in handling capabilities. </TD></TR></TABLE>

From what I remember, my toe was WAY out of whack (4 degrees or something along that line), which probably had a lot to do with the tire wear in that one day.

But, I still feel comfortable knowing that I don't have negative camber...it may not be a necessity, but I went ahead and invested in it.
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