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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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im looking for a fast spooling turbo. want full spool at around 3.5-4.5 rpm, but im also looking for good power something over 400hp! Good turbo-Good price!
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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a gt30r has a fast spool and i seen make over 500+ hp
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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I would say a GT30 would be close to your goals.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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whats the price on those?
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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GT30
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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so these run a little over 1k! anything more affordable?
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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SC-34 is an awesome turbo and a good choice for someone who doesn't have the money for a GT30
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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There are TONS of other choices. Stop with this guessing crap, and have the OP give some specs of what he's looking to do, what motor he has and how he wants the power with his budget. Lately this has been getting ridiculous. Please get some goals and some budgets listed first, otherwise, this thread is just pointless.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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right now im running 320+whp, which is fine but my turbo starts spooling at around 4k and full spool around 6.5k

at top end this turbo can pull, but it takes a while to get there.

im looking to spend the right money for the right turbo. im sure there are turbos under 5-6 hundred with fast spool and good top end, and thats what im looking for!
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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stock gsr engine
440 cc/ aem fuel rail
255 f. pump
3 in. downpipe and full cat back
p28 ecu chipped
exedy stage 2 clutch
skunk2 int. manifold
intercooler kit
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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well in your first post you said you want 400+hp well that isn't going to happen if you use 440cc injectors you will need 750cc or more.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaCivicSiR1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well in your first post you said you want 400+hp well that isn't going to happen if you use 440cc injectors you will need 750cc or more.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i want a turbo's efficiency 400+, but if you were going to mention replacing the injectors why not mention all the internals. I want a better turbo now that i can use later with a better setup!
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigbadboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SC-34 is an awesome turbo and a good choice for someone who doesn't have the money for a GT30</TD></TR></TABLE>
What wheels are in those? GT stuff?
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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They are modified T04 'cold sides', T3 hot sides. IIRC they do/did offer GT wheels in t3/t04 housings.

Budget: 50trim T3/T04E, Stg3 .63AR exhaust
Baller: GT2871R, .82AR exhaust (maybe a step smaller AR, the smaller one is rated 420+)

If you want the 'perfect' turbo IMO, its a GT30R variant with the T3 .78AR divided exhaust housing.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jorge59la &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i want a turbo's efficiency 400+, but if you were going to mention replacing the injectors why not mention all the internals. I want a better turbo now that i can use later with a better setup!</TD></TR></TABLE>

hes giving you good advice because even at 320whp i would never run 440cc injectors. you should get bigger injectors before even thinking about getting a bigger turbo.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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i have a SC44 .63 hot side .60 cold.

full spool 3800-4000 pulls *** rape hard till 8000 RPM

the SC44 may not be in your budget new but used is.

BUT THOSE are the specs i would go for.

.82 a/r hot side is too high for your desired spool characteristics. well if you want BETWEEN 3500-4500. not sure the .82 may come in close to the 4500 area.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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GT32e or a T3/TO4E would fit a budget and are really nice turbos.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you want the 'perfect' turbo IMO, its a GT30R variant with the T3 .78AR divided exhaust housing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the .78 divided is really a waste unless its for something that needs super responsive and quick spooling AKA "autocross"

divided .78 is about equal to a .48 non divided
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iVteC_PoWeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

hes giving you good advice because even at 320whp i would never run 440cc injectors. you should get bigger injectors before even thinking about getting a bigger turbo. </TD></TR></TABLE>

are 700's too much?
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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so i know this post is almost two months old but i made 343.3 and 227.9 with a .60/.63 57 trim on a stock block gsr with head studs and 440cc dsms tuned on crome by chris at intec racing and the thing had more potential just internals were holding us back was getting lots of rod nock so he backed it down and this was on pump gas imo best turbo for under 600 dollars with 400 plus potential with internals and maybe a lil more injector but dont know i sold it and built a fully built ls/vtec with gt35r had to step up to play with the big dogs so yeah just my 2 cents oh yeah and full spool by 5000 at 10 psi
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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rod knock? so your motor is bout to go then.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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There is no need to spend all that money for the GT30r because you're not going to use it to its full potential. I would recommend the turbo i run.....

On my bone stock GSR, i run a GT3255b and at 10psi on a bone stock GSR i'm making 315/216 and have full boost around 37-3900 rpm. It isn't spendy and just a standard journal bearing. If you ran the GT3255e, you could easily push the 400whp mark and still spool before 4k on a good manifold. I would recommend the manifold i have...the SLS shorty.

PM The Shodan and he can get you more info on it...
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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hows the shorty mani compare to a reg. log mani? curious... cuz it looks like a good moderation between a log and a equal length... and it seems like it would be more street friendly. not saying an equal lenght isnt street friendly... but its just that i had a couple bad experiences with them. and although i like the top mounts... they seem a little too much for a weekend warrior kinda car that sees street pretty often.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bnut510 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hows the shorty mani compare to a reg. log mani? curious... cuz it looks like a good moderation between a log and a equal length... and it seems like it would be more street friendly. not saying an equal lenght isnt street friendly... but its just that i had a couple bad experiences with them. and although i like the top mounts... they seem a little too much for a weekend warrior kinda car that sees street pretty often. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well i'm glad you asked that question.

I have run a log manifold, a shorty ramhorn and a topmount on my car. The log had a 60 trim and the other two were using my GT3255b. I dont have the picture of the 3 graphs overlayed, but the SLS Shorty w/ my GT3255 actually spooled faster than the log and made more power all around.

Here is the graph of the SLS Shorty vs my topmount. This comparison is using the same turbo, my GT3255b .63 from Speed Trapp Consulting

Red=topmount..........Blue= SLS Shorty


You can see that the SLS Shorty not only spools faster and makes more midrange, but actually makes more power overall. After driving this car on the street, i'm completely convinced that the only reason i'll EVER switch to something else (ie a topmount) is if i make my GSR into a full blown race car. Otherwise the SLS Shorty stays.....i love it!
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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good solid info... thx. this might make me change my mind on using my blox log mani, in change of a possible shorty. spoolin performance is in my area, so thats where i might look to pick something up. midrange looks really good for the shorty... looks like it would be a good choice for a street setup. good power and less lag is what im after also.
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