ok guys ive come across some sk2 stg2 cams cam gears and springs for such a good price you would think this honda guru fell in love with crack. so this puts me in a spot now that i buy them they are not benificial to my stock b17. so here is the problem i can spend the money on rebuilding my b17 (he also has polished ctr pistons for sooo cheap) or i buy a b20 ether way im buying the cams, gears ect. and a camp1320 tri-y. but if i build the b17 and add some bolt-ons i will only make close to 170 with stock head correct? i dont have very much downtime or big head port money. i think i could make much more power with the b20 block. help me decide, im losing sleep. thanx.

 

b20 , you'll make a lot more power with less mods...

 

b17 crank in a b20 block

 

b17a because it can rev more and it rare and b20 walls are thin. They don't last too long unless they are sleeved although a b20 would make mad tg and whp over a b17a if built right.

 

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shut up and go away before someone listens to you and we have a catastrophe on our hands.

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What is not true in what i just said? And if your trying to build your post count go hangout in the appearance cosmetic Got to be at-least 16

 

noobs. id much rather keep the b17, actually thats what ive done. You may not get the tq or quite the power but you get a more reliable, higher revving with out the cost of (chance) of cracking the b20. plus its the o.g of vtec engines. lol

i say keep the b17 spend the extra money and get the bottom end balance and throw some p30s in there. and you could always shave the head and block for the extra bump in compressin.

 

b17 crank in a b20 block sounds like alot of fun, also alot of time, but just wondering what length rods do you use?

 

im not much of a noob ive been in this game for quite some time im just trying to decide on the best bang for my buck. i dont want to spend over 2gs for 170 at the wheels. i want at least 190 at the wheel and like i said before if i did build the b17 he has ctr polished pistons for cheap. that would bump compression up enough i would have to run at least a .0030 headgasket.

 

wasnt talkin about you, the dude that said shut up. lol sorry.

ive seen plenty of b17s with just some itr cams and regular bolt ons i/h/e make 170 to the wheels. mild head work and a bump in the comp. and you can easily see that 190 maybe a tad bit more. id say just keep the b17, its alot more branging points especially when poeple try and argue with you and say theres no such thing as a b17.

just make sure you have a good tune and youll be set.

 

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that is what i'm planning on doing in the future. For more compression i'm going to run a 2 layer HG with a ported gsr head. I'm trying something new. I have CTR pistons now with a b16a head in my b17a.

 

thats what i just finished doing to mine. p30s balanced bottom end, milled head and block 30thousanths. but i have a 99b16 head with .5 os valves. havent started it yet waiting for my dizzy to come in. and no really sure which cams to go with.

i just like the b17, its not the fastest but its a well built engine, and more reliable.

thats why you always see people drive there stock gsr's with 250k all original.

 

my old b17a in my old crx. i love this motor

 

nice
showoff. lol jk
i havent uploaded any pics of my engine bay yet.

people just dont appreciate the older things anymore, all they want is speed, which is good but not always the most reliable, especially sense most the people trying to build these 300whp n/a b16's are like 16, 17. lol i just turnd 18.

 

i sold the crx and kept the b17a Didn't want to let it go. After i get the motor rebuild i'm putting it in my DD ej1. Hoping to make over 180 whp and 120 tq.

 

sounds good. i hope i make anywhere around 190 200 whp maybe 130 tq.

what cams you running

 

i want to run blox B or skunk stage 2

 

i say b20/vtec. no the cylinder walls wont crack. if it built correctly it will run correctly. and by the way xD**ktonesx is no idiot or noob. his post count might only be 20 but hes a former user here that is very knowledgeable with lots of good info. now u tell me would u rather be the guy with the b17 with cams, valvetrain, higher compression, etc, etc. gettin ur *** kicked by a guy with a near stock b20/vtec or would u rather be the guy in the b20vtec? ive got a fairly stock b20/vtec DA and my buddy with his 92 gsr with the same setup ur looking to do couldnt even think about keeping up with me. just my .02

 

I wasnt even looking at his post b/c that has clearly nothing to do with anything. I never said anything about racing if you actually read what i posted. Its clearly talking about keeping the o.g engine complete in the car. Yes a nearly stock b20/vtec may be faster and if thats what he wants then go for i was more talkin about originality. Especially if he's on a budget. Id much rather see a built b17, more than a b20/vtec.

And yes i would rather be the guy that gets beat by a b20/vtec. woopdy doo. But i guess thats why ive beat plenty of ls/b20 vtecs. on a mild built b17. so sure if they can beat me congrats on that. aint nothin special.

just my .05

 

yea those were the cams i was looking into also. might get some rockets also. just not really sure yet. plus my funds are kinda low. lol

 

yeah m22x sounds good too. And b20powereDA i don't think anyone mentioned anything about a b17a smoking a b20. Your right i would not want to be the guy with the b17a not even the b20 if your going all out racing. Just give me the k20a in a crx and i'll smoke both of them , but that's a different topic. B20 dime a dozen B17a 92-93


Modified by realis9 at 11:52 PM 7/4/2007

 

i think im gonna go with the b17 build, i might try to save up a little more buy a blank head and have it angled and polished. i can see myself getting another job over this. either way im gonna scoop my new cams gears and springs in the next few days. when i do this build would it be worth documenting? would you homies be interested in a b17 build up w/ pics?

 

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welcome to the b17a club Keep us update with your build. I will try to get more pics when i start the rebuild process also.

 

yea man i would be very interested in a build thread. im kinda mad i didnt do it for mine. i have pics of bare block to complete thats all. lol but i guess i dont see a need to get a bunch of descriptive pics.

keep me updated on this.

 

b17 is where its at i got one in my hatch and love it