the b16a arrived with the cable cut...
so i am hoping my current d16 auto cable will bolt right in
let me know if you know it will work...thanx

also i dont know how to remove this
manual says:

remove shift control cable end by removing cotter pin, control pin & control lever roller

i am failing to see the cotter pin...
so i dont know what the control pin and/or control lever roller is in the pictures

 

nevermind....just removed that bolt...came right off...

 

What ecu are you running?

 

i'm planning on chipping my p28 (its already auto)
the swap came with the jdm p30
but yes...the jdm interior harness has interlock module...
i heard i could be running into some issues with this
the tranny only has two wires running to it for the lockup solenoids
and continuity testing puts them to the same ecu pins as usdm a17 & a19
i'm thinking i will be good to go...
whats your take...?

 

Have you compared the amount of sensors controlled by the ecu on the D16 vs. the amount controlled on the B16a?

 

if you're trying to say something...just say it...
everything i've seen is strait up

 

Do you not want to run a manual trans? Or are you physically limited to an automatic.

 

what do you see as the upper hp limit...?
stock internal gate is 9psi...a little bigger than a t3...
i was planning on that
blundar says go higher...lol...that crazy madman...
i'm running 7qt's of mobil1 full synthetic ATF...and a 3.turn trans.cooler...
dual ceramic ball bearing turbo w/ ceramic exhaust wheel (skyline) should spool early
i'm lookin for 250-275

 

A stock tq converter will hate life and probably end itself pretty soon in a turbo car.

A stock honda auto will not hold 250-275. Plus you'd have a 4-speed

I hafta ask again, are you physically limited to an auto?

 

more like financially

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probably doesn't sound convincing...
the only reason the trans is going to blow is if the driver is a loser...
as in shifting through the gears manually...neutral drops...brake.loading...
ricer.douchcock FTL
the enemy of the trans is heat...
with some good fluid (see post above)...and some common sense...
this car is going to have a boatload of a performance upgrade

now if you want to argue the torque converter liking 250hp...
i guess i would be interested in what you have to say about fluid pressure...
i dont know technically much specifically about the honda units

if you want to get technical...
then do it...
dont prance over the subject like the almighty beast of information deliverance

 

Relax a little, I'm not trying to tell you your build is shitty or anything.

This was in the "exhaust notes" section of the last honda-tuning, where a guy wanted to know if his B series integra auto trans would hold up to boost. Their response was -

"Hate to break it to you brother, but it's time to swap to a 5 speed. Honda auto trannies are built for efficiency. They create very little drive train loss when compared to most automatic transmissions because of their unorthodox design. Honda Auto trannies do not have planetary carriers or planetary gear sets. The design more closely resembles a manual gearbox than a convention squishbox. This setup leaves little room for clutch packs and limits the thickness of the gears themselves. Thin gears and small clutch packs equate to a transmission that will only hold up well under the conditions it was meant to exist in. Put extra power to the little guy and it will likely disintegrate."

Not to mention a longer geared 4 speed will hurt acceleration compared to a 5 speed, especially when you're talking about dropping out of your VTEC crossover after every shift.

 

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oops you just did

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once again...words like this are meant for ricer douchcocks flooding the nation
like people who buy honda tuning magazine...
people who drag.race
people on honda-tech
basically everyone

except me
who's not afraid to take care of his ****

i just read today in fact of 3 people over on turbod16.com running or who have run boosted auto trans setups...
one of which is well over the 300hp mark

 

I could have just let you go on with your build and this thread could have been "My transmission just barfed all over the dyno" instead, but I thought I would bring it up that you're going to have problems with that trans holding the kind of power you want to put down.

If you can show me where I insulted you or told you that you were an idiot for buying and auto tranny, go for it.

I started into this asking if you were physically restricted to an auto because I've told people before to just "suck it up and buy a 5-cog", only to have them respond with "I have a prosthetic leg, and I can't use a clutch pedal" or something similar. You tend to use a little discretion after that. Never intended to make fun of you for buying an auto if that's what you thought I meant.

 

Listen, if you want to get into some internet argument than go ahead. But making accusations and all that jazz because someone bought a honda-tuning magazine is pretty childish. Maybe I wanted to read the article on Ednyn's 150 hp/L build.

If you're actually 31 like your profile says than you sure don't act it.

 

neither do you...
get to the point...
stop making quick reply's like this is about something personal
if you can see past it...then maybe i will get some good info out of you
but i gotta tell ya
i'm not learning ****


when people require technical information to satisfy their palette...
and i DO NOT have that technical information...
I SHUT UP
how bout you...?

if dude can make over 300hp on d.series auto...
then i'm certainly not worried about it
he's running amsoil ATF and a cooler

 

If he's having luck with it, then go for it, hopefully you have luck with it too.

I would still consider the information I posted about the lack of planetary carriers or planetary gear sets, plus thin gears and thin clutch packs to be at least something to think about.

 

you know what...they aren't up to the task...
IF YOU ARE A RICER DOUCHNOZZLE
and i'm glad they put something like that in the magazine
MORE CHEAP TRANS FOR ME
(in the event that i do blow one out)

thanx for stopping in
and look past personal attitudes
it keeps threads shorter and to the point
and sorry for judging you based on your magazine

 

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everything i've seen is strait up</TD></TR></TABLE>

OK...

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Did you find any differences? Do you have the JDM B16a auto underdash harness?

 

is it that you NEED/WANT to know...???
if you know something will not work
wouldn't you JUST SAY SO ?!?!?!

everything i have seen looks strait up
i'm extending my o2 sensor harness to drop behind the block
and i might have to extend the ait to mount on the front of the manifold instead of rear...

WHAT ARE YOU GETTING AT
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
SAY IT !!!

i do not need your ******* bullshit wasting my time while i am sorting things out
if you wanted to learn how to do this swap buy your own ******* motor

yes i have the interior harness
anythiing else MR. I LIKE TO REPEAT MYSELF FOR NO APPARENT REASON ?!?!?

the motor is obd1 b16a out of an eg9 4.door ferio

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by digitalcongo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it that you NEED/WANT to know...???
if you know something will not work
wouldn't you JUST SAY SO ?!?!?!

everything i have seen looks strait up
i'm extending my o2 sensor harness to drop behind the block
and i might have to extend the ait to mount on the front of the manifold instead of rear...

WHAT ARE YOU GETTING AT
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
SAY IT !!!

i do not need your ******* bullshit wasting my time while i am sorting things out
if you wanted to learn how to do this swap buy your own ******* motor

yes i have the interior harness
anythiing else MR. I LIKE TO REPEAT MYSELF FOR NO APPARENT REASON ?!?!?

the motor is obd1 b16a out of an eg9 4.door ferio
</TD></TR></TABLE>

You seriously need to chill man. I have been helping automatic people out for many years and wanted to make sure you weren't going to run into any issues. The P30 auto ecu has some off the wall wiring as far as the sensors are concerned and was curious as to how far you have gotten and if the car was running and shifting fine. I was going to ask you about selling your interior harness, but I think I will pass now. Sorry if I wasted your time, good luck.

 

always the same...
people try and draw you in with their wisdom and ways...
but never do they ******* just offer it up
they use it against each other

they say knowledge is power...
isn't it funny how power hungry everyone is
must mean they are idiots
because you dont have enough

your loss...not mine...
and unlike you
I HOOK PEOPLE UP WITH KNOWLEDGE WHEN I HAVE IT
i dont beat around the bush asking stupid ******* questions when i know the answer
LAY IT OUT OR GET THE expletive OUT
its the internet...if you expect payment for your advice on a car forum
YOU AREN'T GOING TO GET IT
stupid mind expletive
thanx for wasting my time and your own

i also hook people up on good deals
regardless if they are an *** or not

jackass

 

You seem to have all things figured out man. I didn't think I needed to tell you anything. I was actually trying to gain some more knowledge on this swap and was curious as to how you installed everything. You seem to have all your ends covered except for a bolt issue, but you are the man and figured it out! Way to go! That is why I asked the questions. I don't expect payment from you man, you obviously can't afford the water I **** in. Post up some pics when it's done if you can find time. When do you think it will be finished?

 

see...now i dont know if you are bullshitting me or not...
and if you are just feeding me to the swap lions
but either way...
i feel confident

my biggest fear is that chipping a p28 ecu would mess with the code for the auto trans...

oh and stop peeing in the pool !!!
i'm glad i dont have a membership there


the d16 auto cable fits right into the b16 trans...
it may require a little adjustment to shift 100%...
i will update the thread to make benefit glorious nation of honda-tech

 

Automatic? Wow, all this time I have been calling you girl names to be a jerk, but I had no idea!

 

a sign you are in better position
taking the world on single handedly