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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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Default rear disc swap for eg hatch front and rear disc what do I need to make this complete!!

I need some information I have a 96 integra ls rear disc and front spindles.
the thing is when you put rear disc on a eg coupe or hatch you have to get the 95 civic si e brake cables I know. but here is the thing. When you put the front spindles on would you need the integra proportion valve and the master cylinger and brake booster? I have heard people use 90-93 master clylinder and brake booster and it works because I have one of those right now. but would I need to use the integra proportion valve. another question you can use a abs spindle on a honda civic that doesnt have abs right? and can you use the eg hatch lower control arms or do you have to use the integra lower control arms? thanks

My car is a 95 civic CX hatchback EH2


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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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i'd just go ahead and put on the brakes with your existing hydraulic components. I'm sure other people will disagree, but it worked great on my eg.

i'm pretty sure you can use your stock susp components also. i think the only difference is in cars w/o swaybars, as they don't have holes for the endlink in the lca. and don't worry about the abs, all that stuff works with each other.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 06:43 AM
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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Youll be fine with your stock Brake booster and Master cylinder, you wont really benifit from either of them unless you bump up to some 2 piston calipers. If anything, upgrade the porportioning vale to the integra 40/40 one.

Like ev13lf said, the only difference between the LCA's is that the integra LCA's have holes for the endlinks for the swaybar. Keep the integra LCA's, or buy some aftermarket ones. Dont switch to the factory civic ones, that would be, well, pointless.

Another note, and this is just my opinoin, but if your car doesnt have ABS, dont start putting ABS parts into the mix.

Also, what model EG are you putting this on? Because if you have an EX, then putting on the integra front spindles would be a waste of time, because they have the same exact front brake setup (calipers, rotors, pads, lug pattern.)
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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alright to start off.. u can use integra ebrake cables.. they fit perfect on an eg..(or if you can get the si cables..they work fine too..) when u do a disk brake conversion.. you should replace a NON ABS integra praportioning valve..(or eg si valve will work too).. definetly a good idea to use an integra booster cylinder and master cylinder... ... just use the integra control arms.. ..call me if you have questions.. i did all this bout a month ago on my eg
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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use the e brake cables from the integra
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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a good master cylinder upgrade would be from a 91 civic for door with 4 wheel disc brakes, it 15/16ths and bolts directly to your lines and brake booster without modification, also only the 94-95 ex's and si's had the larger front brakes
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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My 93 EX has the same front brakes as the integra. My EX brakes are still stock. 92-95 EX and Si share the same brakes as the integra. Not only 94-95.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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you didn't search enough, there's a giant faq covering this entire process at the top of the page.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daluv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My 93 EX has the same front brakes as the integra. My EX brakes are still stock. 92-95 EX and Si share the same brakes as the integra. Not only 94-95.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't know if you can tell from these picks but

92 si (smaller)


94 ex non abs(larger)



*resizing as you type*
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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If its 94-95 ex and si only, then why do 94 Integra LS (non abs) rotors and pads fit my 93 Civic EX (non abs). When you do a size comparisson, put your VHS tape in the same location. One picture its right in the middle of the rotor with the video touching the bottom of the rotor, and the other picture the VHS is off to the left, so of course it looks bigger in the picture. But anywho, 94 LS rotors and pads fit my 93 EX, look up part numbers.

Autozone Duralast Front Brake Rotor for 93 Civic EX without ABS: part # 3295
Autozone Duralast Front Brake Rotor for 94 Integra LS without ABS: part # 3295

Autozone Duralast Gold Front Brake pads for 93 Civic EX without ABS: part # MKD617
Autozone Duralast Gold Front Brake pads for 94 Integra LS without ABS: part # MKD617

Or you could drive down to Autozone and check them out for yourself.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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Markb16a: Are you also adding Integra front brakes? Or are you just trying to install the spindles?

I used Integra cables on my 94 hatch. You have to get creative with one of the mounting tabs, but that is the only issue.

If your adding rear discs, you should get the NON ABS 90+ integra or NON ABS 92-95 Si prop valve.

If your adding larger front discs, you need the matching master cylinder. If your putting Integra or ABS 92-95 Civic 10.2" front brakes on your car, you need the 15/16" MC from a 90-91 Civic EX). If your putting the NON ABS 92-95 Civic 10.2" front brakes on your car, then you need the 7/8" MC from a 93-95 NON ABS Civic EX coupe. Both of these MC's I listed will bolt onto your stock booster and hard-lines without any problems...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daluv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My 93 EX has the same front brakes as the integra. My EX brakes are still stock. 92-95 EX and Si share the same brakes as the integra. Not only 94-95.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The ONLY 92-95 Civics that came with the same front calipers as Integras were the ABS models. The NON ABS 93-95 civic EX (and 94 Del Sol VTEC) with 10.2" front brakes actually have a similar looking caliper with a slightly smaller piston and brake pad. The important detail is THEY ARE NOT THE SAME and require different hydraulic parts to work properly!!!!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egsleepercivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also only the 94-95 ex's and si's had the larger front brakes </TD></TR></TABLE>

The 94 Si ABS was the only hatchback to have the 10.2" front brakes. All 92-95 non ABS Si's have the smaller front brakes...

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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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The EG EX shared the same platform for front brakes as the integra. Si shares the same brakes with the DX and LX models.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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i not trying to argue with you , i now its hard to to tell in the pic, but in person it obvious that the 92 are smaller, i wish i had a tape measure. when was your 93 made, ie what month? this has been debated on here before.

whats messed up is when i originally got my padsfrom autozone(lifetime warranty) i ordered them for a non abs 94 ex they didn't fit i had to order them for a 93 to get the right ones.

maybe just the 92-93 si are smaller idk

maybe someone else has more info

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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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94 Integra LS without abs calipers have the same part number as the 93 Civic EX without abs calipers.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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From what I am getting, the 92-93 si shared the same brakes as the dx and lx models, which does make them smaller than the 92-95 EX. Im not trying to get into an argument either, Id just hate to see someone come back on here bitching that the advice he got was total ****. So if we work together, we can get all out facts together to give him the right info. Or he could just to what he shouldve done in the first place and searched, which I dont believe he did because there are a lot of threads on this.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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maybe just the 92-93 si are smaller idk

someone else may have some more info on this

http://autozone.com/selectedZi...p.htm

mkd409, mkd273 *except ex model *
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Exactly what I just said.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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you beat me

good stuff

i learned something today, now i can shut my brain off lol
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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The main thing that I am trying to state here, is that if he has a 92-95 EX, and is planning on replacing the front brakes with front brakes a 94 LS, that it is a waste of time, because they are the same.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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You guys completely missed my post. All NON ABS 92-95 Si's have smaller 9.4" front brakes. Only the 94 Si with ABS had the 10.2" front brakes...

And you guys should NEVER look up Honda parts at Autozone. They dont' knkow dick. Look up & compare part numbers at Honda...

SLHondaParts.com
HondaPartsDeals.com
AcuraOEMParts.com
etc...
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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and if its a non abs ex he can upgrade to the larger calipers of the tegs with just a caliper bracket and caliper
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egsleepercivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and if its a non abs ex he can upgrade to the larger calipers of the tegs with just a caliper bracket and caliper</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your not being specific enough.

The EX sedan and the EX coupe have different front brakes.

The EX sedan has smaller front brakes.
The EX coupe has larger front brakes (same as integra).
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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Lol! Ive figured out some things over the past few years. Ive done two rear disc swaps so far, one on my EX coupe, and one on my CX Hatch. So I do know a little bit about the setups, not all, but some!
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