Honda Prelude All Model Preludes

twincharged lude?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 02:05 AM
  #1  
Slick_LudE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 193
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Default twincharged lude?

Im thinking of twincharging (supercharged and turbocharged) an h22. (sleeved and built) of course. Has it been done on a 4th or 5th gen lude? If so any info would be greatly appreciated.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 06:54 AM
  #2  
NNV's Avatar
NNV
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Default

dumb idea dont waste yours or our time.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 06:57 AM
  #3  
street_ride14's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,528
Likes: 2
From: MA
Default Re: twincharged lude? (Slick_LudE)

TwinTurbos are overrated and would be diffecult to install on the h22. If the motor is already built, just add a decent sized turbo and tune to the psi desired.

Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 07:23 AM
  #4  
96vtecI4's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 469
Likes: 0
From: Regina, SK, Canada
Default

It's an overheating problem waiting to happen. If you want to power adders go supercharger+nitrous. Or Turbo+nitrous.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 08:46 AM
  #5  
P13_mein's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 220
Likes: 0
From: FL, us
Default Re: twincharged lude? (street_ride14)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by street_ride14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TwinTurbos are overrated and would be difficult to install on the h22.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

he talking about twin charging an H22. you would run into serious space issues before you would even consider getting it running reliably with your (minimum) standalone management, especially on the pulley side of the engine bay, not to mention the series or huge intercooler you'd have to run
you would have less trouble throwing a turbo V6 in a prelude.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:12 AM
  #6  
Prudz_lude's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
15 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,721
Likes: 13
From: Vancouver Canada
Default Re: twincharged lude? (P13_mein)

Ummm space issues? what are you guys talking about? Lets say he owns a 4th gen, people can still get the jackson racing superchargers into the engine bay with a little work. the pulley area can be cleared up simply by removing the egr, the cruise control, and still allow him to keep the PS.

Now, why would a turbo affect the space in the back? the turbo components are nowhere near the back of the engine bay. He could then get his turbo charger and manifold and install his turbo setup. He would need a nice big intercooler etc. If he is running into any heating issues its as simple as doing two things. Spray on the intercooler, and an oil cooler. Both fairly cheap and extremely effective.

Why would you ever do such a thing? If i could i would as well. No turbo lag. You have your super charger covering your *** in the low rpms until the turbo lag has kicked out and you have reached full boost. The car would be a rocket.

As for tuning, get a hondata and look at it this way. Are you the one tuning it? No, the tuner gets to have the fun tuning the car. Just make sure you go to a shop that can handle the application and you will be good to go.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:18 AM
  #7  
md23vtec's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,770
Likes: 0
From: md, us
Default Re: twincharged lude? (Slick_LudE)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slick_LudE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im thinking of twincharging (supercharged and turbocharged) an h22. (sleeved and built) of course. Has it been done on a 4th or 5th gen lude? If so any info would be greatly appreciated. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Before I go into why this can be a kick *** setup if..... used for the right purpose. and how I think it can be executed correctly. What would you be using this for ie 1/4 mile, auto x, or you just want to have it so u say u have it?
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 10:19 AM
  #8  
cb7tougeracer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 634
Likes: 0
From: Clemson, SC, USA
Default Re: twincharged lude? (md23vtec)

i though about doing this too use the supercharger to spool up the turbo but i agree nitrous and turbo would be better but yes it can be done just think the size injectors you would need lol 1500 cc lol
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 11:38 AM
  #9  
OaksRacing's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 623
Likes: 0
From: Denver, co, usa
Default Re: twincharged lude? (cb7tougeracer)

Actually there are several H22 setups already running 1600cc injectors. Remember the prologger 6 cyl dragster a procharger and compound turbo's? it had 16 injectors. With enough money and time anything is possible, but as asked earlier why - with the turbo's available today the H22 can produce over 1,000 whp, but then there is that nagging problem of putting it to the ground with 25" slicks. Have you ever seen a supercharged prelude - everything is soooo close with space that is available -
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 01:43 PM
  #10  
Fresco's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
From: Richmond, VA
Default Re: twincharged lude? (OaksRacing)

[IMG][/IMG]
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 02:53 PM
  #11  
MLBZ521's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,776
Likes: 0
From: Southaven, MS
Default Re: twincharged lude? (Fresco)

^^

«--Needs new pair of pants.


I've always thought about this, and it would be a very interesting ride.. I'd love to take something like that for a spin.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 02:55 PM
  #12  
gaydm.accord's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 4,707
Likes: 0
From: nunya, GAHdamnBusiness, ethiopia
Default

skeet skeet
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 05:10 PM
  #13  
borat's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
From: Central Texas
Default Re: twincharged lude? (Slick_LudE)

Haven't seen it on a prelude, but here's a setup on a B16:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1293497

The guy ended up with a loss of 20 hp up top, but gained 50 hp down low. This type of setup would be great for road racing, but not so good for drag racing.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 05:17 PM
  #14  
ProjectBB6's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,346
Likes: 1
From: Cary/Apex, NC
Default Re: twincharged lude? (borat)

Twin turbo a 4 banger... IMO isn't the best idea. You will basically have 2 cylinders for each turbo vs say a v6 3 per turbo. They are producing enough exhaust to spool those turbos up pretty good. I think it can be done but will it be very effective? I don't know. Maybe a small and a large one . Try it out and let us know
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 05:54 PM
  #15  
Hawkze_2.3's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 10,629
Likes: 1
From: Further down the spiral, TX, usa
Default Re: twincharged lude? (ProjectBB6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProjectBB6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Twin turbo a 4 banger... IMO isn't the best idea. You will basically have 2 cylinders for each turbo vs say a v6 3 per turbo. They are producing enough exhaust to spool those turbos up pretty good. I think it can be done but will it be very effective? I don't know. Maybe a small and a large one . Try it out and let us know </TD></TR></TABLE>

Twin-charged, not twin-turboed. Read it again
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 05:55 PM
  #16  
ProjectBB6's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,346
Likes: 1
From: Cary/Apex, NC
Default Re: twincharged lude? (Hawkze_2.3)

Projectbb6 = Noob
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 05:59 PM
  #17  
DfwBB6's Avatar
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,668
Likes: 0
From: DFW, TX, U.S.A
Default Re: twincharged lude? (ProjectBB6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProjectBB6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Projectbb6 = Noob </TD></TR></TABLE>

Reply
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:23 PM
  #18  
P13_mein's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 220
Likes: 0
From: FL, us
Default Re: twincharged lude? (Prudz_lude)

since there is essentially no "mild" twin charged setup that is really worth it;
so, in a 92-96, after banging your shock tower, and removing components;
the heat that would be produced, not only from a stressed h22, a decent sized turbo and the recompression of the intake charge, but also the exertion of small roots blower would require better cooling; eg larger radiator, bigger oil cooler,in addition to the water to air or basic huge front mount intercooler. plus the necessity of adding in the a bypass for the eaton, all surrounded by oil & water lines & 3"+ piping; not impossible; but quite difficult
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 01:08 AM
  #19  
Prudz_lude's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
15 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,721
Likes: 13
From: Vancouver Canada
Default Re: twincharged lude? (P13_mein)

^ how the hell is that difficult? An oil cooler, an intercooler, 3 inch piping? Is that hard to install? last time i checked it was an adapter plate and a few bolts. You forgot to mention spray for the cooling issues.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2023 | 11:50 AM
  #20  
Joshimoto's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
From: Washington State
Default Re: twincharged lude?

Anyone from this tread still around? I did just twincharge my Prelude so this is possible!
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2023 | 08:57 PM
  #21  
JRCivic1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Active Streak: 60 Days
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 10,016
Likes: 1,234
From: The South - Roll Tide !!!
Default Re: twincharged lude?

Originally Posted by Joshimoto
Anyone from this tread still around? I did just twincharge my Prelude so this is possible!
Post a pic or two... show us what you did.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2023 | 02:50 AM
  #22  
Joshimoto's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
From: Washington State
Default Re: twincharged lude?

Originally Posted by JRCivic1
Post a pic or two... show us what you did.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2023 | 02:51 AM
  #23  
Joshimoto's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
From: Washington State
Default Re: twincharged lude?



Reply
Old Nov 3, 2023 | 04:01 AM
  #24  
TimiK's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 717
Likes: 24
From: Kuopio, Finland
Default Re: twincharged lude?

hp?
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2023 | 04:45 AM
  #25  
Joshimoto's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
From: Washington State
Default Re: twincharged lude?

Originally Posted by TimiK
hp?
only 385whp, the motor is 100% stock internally. The supercharger has a 9lb pully and I'm running a 3lb spring in the wastegate.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:19 AM.