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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 12:36 AM
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Default Motor Oil, what is good?

What are the top brands for motor oil for performance.

Right now, the best ones that I heard are

AMS
LUCAS
ENEOS


which is best or is there anything better.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 01:05 AM
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Oh god, yeah those are good oils, along with about 20 other makes and brands...
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 01:50 AM
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:50 AM
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put whatever you want in the car...

just be sure to change it "regularly" 2500-3k miles

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:59 AM
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German made Castrol Synthetic 0-30
Amsoil
Torco

I also have had excellent experience with Royal Purple.

It's really a matter of preference really when it comes down to these certain oils. Just like ITR colors, although we know FBP is the true winner.

BTW there was an excellent thread about this like 2 weeks back. Search!
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 03:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW there was an excellent thread about this like 2 weeks back. Search!</TD></TR></TABLE>


it was less time ago than that even
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 04:11 AM
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IMHO

Most everything &gt; Mobil 1 (fake synthetic)
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 04:37 AM
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After reading that thread on Mobil1, i went to Autozone seeking this "German" Castrol Syntec but didnt exactly know what i was looking for. Can anyone that knows of this brand of oil tell me what to look for to determine if it is the German made or not? Do i look for a "Made in Germany" label or is it a certain bottle?
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 04:38 AM
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I user Amsoil and will now swear by it.

I just made the change before Expo. Didn't burn a drop, nor did it discolor all weekend. I don't think I'm going to change it before CMP!!!
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 04:50 AM
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I use Motul in the DC2.

Just went through a three-day driving event, total of 14 sprint sessions. Didn't use a drop.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cmdr430 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">put whatever you want in the car...

just be sure to change it "regularly" 2500-3k miles

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Show me proof that it needs to be changed that soon.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:47 AM
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Just get any major brand of synthetic oil (not synthetic blends) and you'll get 99 percent of the benefits compared with conventional oil. That other 1 percent of difference between one synthetic and another is too small to worry about.

I've been very happy using Mobil 1 and, more recently, Pennzoil Platinum.

I hear this stuff that Doostur uses is now available in 5W30 full synthetic, check the label to make sure it's made in Germany:


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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I user Amsoil and will now swear by it.

I just made the change before Expo. Didn't burn a drop, nor did it discolor all weekend. I don't think I'm going to change it before CMP!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Amsoil has some great products for sure, there are others that are great as well. I'm also using amsoil and ~4500 miles of use shows no consumption and only slight discoloration (I can actually see it on the dipstick now )
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:53 AM
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Ken Sax FTW
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave-ROR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Show me proof that it needs to be changed that soon. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm with Dave on this one. That old saw about "3000 miles or 3 months" was prevalent 50-60 years ago. The technology and quality of oils and cars have improved dramatically since those days. If you feel better changing your oil that frequently, go ahead - it won't hurt anything but your wallet - but I think you can go longer than that. I do. (I also think you shouldn't extend your change interval just because you use synthetic.)

Whatever you do, though, don't go longer than Honda's recommendation (7500 miles or 12 months, or more frequently if you meet their criteria for "severe conditions" - LITFM for more info).
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(I also think you shouldn't extend your change interval just because you use synthetic.)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Absolutely. However, if using a quality oil, and if you are performing UOAs to determine a proper OCI for your car/oil selection, extended change intervals are fine
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 06:46 AM
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I use Amsoil too, and its great BUT....you should still search. This has been covered exactly 984,403 times.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 07:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'm with Dave on this one. That old saw about "3000 miles or 3 months" was prevalent 50-60 years ago. The technology and quality of oils and cars have improved dramatically since those days. If you feel better changing your oil that frequently, go ahead - it won't hurt anything but your wallet - but I think you can go longer than that. I do. (I also think you shouldn't extend your change interval just because you use synthetic.)

Whatever you do, though, don't go longer than Honda's recommendation (7500 miles or 12 months, or more frequently if you meet their criteria for "severe conditions" - LITFM for more info).
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Here's a bugger for ya Ken, the Integra owners manual lists changing the oil every x,xxx miles but IIRC it doesn't reccommend changing the filter with every oil change? Correct me if I'm mitaken but I remember such an oddity in the manual like that. I know I change my filter Every oil change which is now either once a season or before every event. Or does that also fall into the severe service? I can't remember off hand and am trying to kill time between writing menus and doing other paper work that I just hate
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I user Amsoil and will now swear by it.

I just made the change before Expo. Didn't burn a drop, nor did it discolor all weekend. I don't think I'm going to change it before CMP!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was talking to your dad about this before leaving Expo... We were comparing oils and usage. You guys were using Amsoil and I was using Mobil1, we both had the same usage (not much, if any), and yours was a tad bit lighter than mine at the end of the event with what I thought was the same amount of driving. Later, I remembered that I had driven 250 miles on top of the ragging at expo.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just get any major brand of synthetic oil (not synthetic blends) and you'll get 99 percent of the benefits compared with conventional oil. That other 1 percent of difference between one synthetic and another is too small to worry about.

I've been very happy using Mobil 1 and, more recently, Pennzoil Platinum.

I hear this stuff that Doostur uses is now available in 5W30 full synthetic, check the label to make sure it's made in Germany:


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I cant complain about Mobil1 aswell, I've been using it for years. I do, however, want to try some amsoil....
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Mobile 1 in my engine just burns too much oil when I used it. Between 1 to 2 qts between oil changes when it saw high RPMs often.

I tried Royal Purple and it doesn't burn a single drop, being the same weight.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Here's a bugger for ya Ken, the Integra owners manual lists changing the oil every x,xxx miles but IIRC it doesn't reccommend changing the filter with every oil change? Correct me if I'm mitaken but I remember such an oddity in the manual like that. I know I change my filter Every oil change which is now either once a season or before every event. Or does that also fall into the severe service? I can't remember off hand and am trying to kill time between writing menus and doing other paper work that I just hate </TD></TR></TABLE>

I remember that, too. I believe it said to change the oil filter every other oil change. But I changed mine out every time.

Back to topic, I will use Amsoil from here on out. No more M1 for me.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Shell Rotella T (synthetic) 5w-40 or (dino) 10w-30.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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I know I've been asked this by several users and since I'm at the shop now and have a bottle in my hand, I'll post what I ended up using...

It's the race version of Amsoil.

Series 2000

SAE 0W-30 Severe Service
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's a bugger for ya Ken, the Integra owners manual lists changing the oil every x,xxx miles but IIRC it doesn't reccommend changing the filter with every oil change? Correct me if I'm mitaken but I remember such an oddity in the manual like that. I know I change my filter Every oil change which is now either once a season or before every event. Or does that also fall into the severe service? I can't remember off hand and am trying to kill time between writing menus and doing other paper work that I just hate </TD></TR></TABLE>

Here's what it says in the service manual (I just double-checked, pages 4-4 through 4-7 in the '98 service manual, but the owner's manual should be identical):

- For regular conditions, change the oil every 7500 miles or 12 months, whichever comes first, and change the oil filter every 15K miles or 12 months, whichever comes first.

- For severe conditions - which they define as mostly (not just occasionally) short trips, hot weather (e.g. Vegas or Phoenix), trailer towing, dusty roads - change the oil and oil filter every 3750 miles or 6 months, whichever comes first.

I change my filter every oil change, though.
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