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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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I bought a jdm front bumper and lip from 99_dc2 from the forsale item on honda-tech. In the description, he said the front bumper has 2 cracks but front lip is in excellent condition. I paid for them and when I received them, the front bumper is what he said it is but the front lip is damage(in my eyes they are). I told him about it and showed him pix of it.








It has big scraps on both sides, paint stress cracks, and paint flakes. He keeps arguing saying that that lip is in excellent condition. I keep saying it's damaged. And he will NOT do anything about it. He said what do you except from used items. I went and got an estimate to see how much it'll cost to repair and paint it. I'll get it in a bit and post the cost. Am I wrong or is the front lip really in excellent condition?
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Definitely doesn't look like excellant to me. Do you have the link to the original sale thread?
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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I searched and found it but he erased the thread

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2001641
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Definitely doesn't look like excellant to me. Do you have the link to the original sale thread?</TD></TR></TABLE>

^ x2.

Looks EXACTLY like my lip that I bought from a member on here... In which, cltitus described it as being "Pretty banged up, and will DEFINATELY need a full repaint." So I was expecting it to arrive in said condition.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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how much more road rash can you get without completely smashing the lip? thats as far from excellent condition as it gets. your right, id be pissed if he sold the lip as in "excellent condition".
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Parada &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much more road rash can you get without completely smashing the lip? thats as far from excellent condition as it gets. your right, id be pissed if he sold the lip as in "excellent condition".</TD></TR></TABLE>
My thoughts exactly.

How much did you pay for it? How much should this have sold for?
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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That's excellent?

WTF does mint look like to this guy?
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrOkEn_Dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I searched and found it but he erased the thread

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2001641</TD></TR></TABLE>

O I was pissed. I told him that. I paid 250 shipped for it(front bumper and lip). I'm thinking it's a good price IF the lip is in excellent condition like he said. I wouldn't pay more than a $100 for the front bumper and lip in this condition. I left the estimate to have it fixed at work. But I remember the cost around 350 for repair and paint. I'm paying more to fix the lip than the cost to get the lip and bumper. I dunno what i'm gonna do about this.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Scammer
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Scammer </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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I hate when terms get tossed around out of context. http://webster.com/dictionary/excellent

But I see it happen far to often in the Trade forums.

In your case you have been wronged by the seller.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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good from far, far from good, sorry you got screwed.

user name of seller?
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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^ It's in the first sentence of his post.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Thats why i ask for good quality pics of anything i buy from every angle.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doostur &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats why i ask for good quality pics of anything i buy from every angle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats the first thing I thought about when i opened the package. I should've asked for close up quality pix of it. I still kick myself in the butt for not doing so.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doostur &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats why i ask for good quality pics of anything i buy from every angle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

as do i....unless whatever it is i am buying it new in the box
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spoon ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

as do i....unless whatever it is i am buying it new in the box</TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha, I'm sure George H would disagree with that statement.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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That's what I'd call ugly, but serviceable.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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that's looks like 100% mint to me
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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So many crooked seller out there!
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrOkEn_Dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I searched and found it but he erased the thread

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2001641</TD></TR></TABLE>


LOL.

Scanner alert.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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Communication with him was good. He'd always respond the questions, etc... Just sucks that he can't tell the difference between excellent condition and damage. I guess I have no choice but to fix it. thumbs down for that seller.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:48 AM
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hmmm


this is what i would categorise as "fucked"
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 03:18 AM
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Gee-Off chiming in with the UK love haha.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 03:48 AM
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If paid via paypal... reverse the payment and claim it as broken or "Other than described" or something along those lines.


Modified by Doostur at 8:43 AM 6/28/2007
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