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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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Alright...well i am upgrading my exhaust and my first idea was to get it custom bent at a shop performance shop where i know someone. he told me it will be a few hundred bucks. then i was online and i noticed these Monza Pacesetter catback exhaust systems. now i know a buddy who has pacesetter longtubes on his camaro ss and he likes them but i have no clue what these exhausts sound like on imports. i know the shop where i'm going tho has great work and nice sounding exhausts without the "ricyness". does anyone know what the pacesetters sound like on hondas? also i found headers made by pacesetter and i'm debating between those and dc sports. big price jump. i guess the headers with black paint have sucky paint (it chips quick).

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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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my 2 cents

get on autopartswarehouse.com

order the magnaflow bolt-on catback

also year, engine, and other specifics are nice
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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i dont know about the domestic scene but pacesetter for imports is considered low budget/cheap. cant comment on the sound because i have never heard one. but if you can afford it get the DC header. or a EX header, which from what everyone says, is comparable to the DC header.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 01:31 AM
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my friend has a pacesetter cat-back on there 96 neon. Its a 2.0 liter motor so comparable to our 2.2 liter motor and it sounds like ***. Terrible ricey tone. I do not suggest pacesetter at it also rusted fast and its supposingly stainless steel haha.

Just buy a muffler from a decent brand take it to a shop and get them to bend pipe for you. it will sound much better for the 100 dollars extra spend.

Its either save 100 dollars and have an annoying exhaust you'll eventually change out anyways, or a decent custom set up with a nice muffler that you'll enjoy.

All up to you though bud. I highly suggest going custom or buying an exhaust from Megan racing. I love my exhaust and its a budget price only like 350-400 for a full cat-back.. completely stainless steel.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 06:59 AM
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i am gonna have to agree with 361 accord, magnaflow is the way to go, i had a bolt on catback magna on my base model rsx and it sounded terrific, not ricey at all, and it wasnt loud until it needed to be, probably the best exhaust ever for imports, or if you wanna be cheap, go and have a muffler shop install 2.25 exhaust from the cat and buy a magnaflow mufler, cheaper and just as effective
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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right on man, they sound *shaking* sooo good on subarus haha

and i can get them for only around 300-350

and it really IS stainless steel

otherwais you can actually polish ur stock exhaust from what ive heard, honda uses stailness steel exhaust, the muffler is anyways
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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sorry it's a 96 accord lx f22b2. ya i was planning on going with magnaflow exhaust. but with the price jump from a custom bent to that i just kinda pushed the magnaflow out of the picture. i'll probably end up selling this car anyways so it's not really worth the extra 100-150 for magnaflow. i'll probably throw on one of their mufflers tho. i was thinking about doing cams, but i can't really find much info cuz nobody really does cams on f22's. i should be getting exhaust done soon enough. thanks for the suggestions and if anyone has any info on cams for my engine. or any other useful upgrade ideas...PLEASE let me know. thanks
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accord_raffi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... i'll probably end up selling this car anyways so it's not really worth the extra 100-150 for magnaflow....</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you're going to sell the car I wouldn't put an exhaust on it and definetely not a cam. If your dead set on putting something on it though why not just a muffler?You'll get the sound your after and the low price you want. The crush-bent tubing that exhaust places use for "custom" exhaust sucks anyway.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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well if i find a cam and start building the motor, then i probably won't end up selling it. i need to get some power. it crossed my mind to put the f22b1 head on the f22b2 just for the vtec. i read a little bit on it and it's simpler than doing the h22a1 head swap but at the same time i wonder what's gonna be better in the long run. like i said, if i get that deep into it i won't sell it.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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my buddy just got a pacesetter exhaust for his lightning.. sounds sick but never heard one on an accord. i also recommend the megan racing one if you want a catback. they do make cams for the f22.. a guy asked about them a little bit ago. gude comes to mind but i dont think that was the one of choice.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FarinaMotorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The crush-bent tubing that exhaust places use for "custom" exhaust sucks anyway.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you know, custom, isnt always a good thing, the custom paint on my accord is a good thing, though "custom" exhaust=20bucks max

it will be ghetto-rigged with different sized pipe, crush bent tubing that only restricts flow

just put a (folgers) coffee can on the end

link to video I made :for this purpose:

http://vids.myspace.com/index....26048

lol its about as loud as having an intake....


(this was back in my ricer days, the car looks like this now

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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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well this is the place i am going to... http://www.nlmotorsports.com/ 95% of the kids i know who have gone here are very satisfied with what they've had done. it's not a low budget place at all
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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that 93 civic had crush bends
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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it also can't get traction haha
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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alright well i ordered my headers from hedman's.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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ok well this is what i had done this past week at the shop. i got my hedman headers put in and had the resonator removed. now after that i got like the typical ricy noise and rasp while driving and what sounds like a whistle. i am pretty sure that is the back pressure making that whistle. so i had him put in a cherrybomb on my exhaust. that got it to be a good amount deeper and sounded better than before, but the whistle was still there. so i was wondering if i should take off the cat and use a straight pipe with an MIL eliminator or get a high flow cat. it may even be the muffler. apparently my muffler is was an aftermarket stainless steel one that looks oem but idk if it would help to replace that. It is NOT an exhaust leak.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accord_raffi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it also can't get traction haha</TD></TR></TABLE>

no doubt
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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does the whistle only happen or get louder when you lift off the throttle? did you also put on a aftermarket intake at the same time?
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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nope i already had the intake on for a while. that never whistled. the whistle kind of sounds like a kazoo. it kicks in only when i give it gas. it sounds like it's coming from right below my seat or somewhere near there. i think it's back pressure or something from the stock cat and muffler. i think i am going to take the cat off and get MIL eliminators and like a magnaflow muffler
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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does anyone know where this whistle is coming from? the shop says no matter what i do it's going to be there from the headers...but two of my sources say if i release some backpressure it will go away. i don't know if it's worth trying to fix it or if it is no big deal. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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get a custom exhaust for sure...tell them u want no resonators with 2 3/4 inch pipe from the cat back to a cannon muffler...the muffler should cost u around $120. this will open ur exhaust up a lot and give u better air flow with less back pressure. find a cool person working there and have them gut ur cat while ur there and u will really see some more results. i did this to my 95 accord EX VTEC and dynoed 17 more hp from exhaust alone!
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jolitaly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get a custom exhaust for sure...tell them u want no resonators with 2 3/4 inch pipe from the cat back to a cannon muffler...the muffler should cost u around $120. this will open ur exhaust up a lot and give u better air flow with less back pressure. find a cool person working there and have them gut ur cat while ur there and u will really see some more results. i did this to my 95 accord EX VTEC and dynoed 17 more hp from exhaust alone!</TD></TR></TABLE> pollution FTL!
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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well i don't really need to do a catback. it's not really going to do anything for my car right now...plus the guy before me had a new one put on so i wouldn't really need it. i just need to get rid of the whistle. finding these hi flow cats is not easy
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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Magnaflow high-flow cats are easy to find. I wouldn't bother though, you won't see any real gains from it (maybe 1-2 horse), it's not worth the expense and it won't solve your problem. Have you checked for exhaust leaks? Maybe the shop didn't weld everything up well. An exhaust leak could whistle when the engine is under load.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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well as of now i'm taking the word of the shop which is that they listened to it and double checked for a bad weld. they didn't find anything. i'm having trouble finding a test pipe with an o2 port so i can use an mile eliminator.
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