Recently my friend gave me his 1991 honda accord 4dr sedan with a blown ring...

I have an h22A1 that were putting in the car, but we came across a problem..

on the rear drivers side of the motor is a connector with 3 read wires and 1 yellow.

the problem is that when i got the h22 motor from the junkyard that connector was broken off. When we checked the f22a1 motor that we had pulled out ot the car is has the same connector.

I tried tracing the wires but they run back into the engine harness..

does anyone know what this connector connects to?

or is it easier to pull the harness off the old motor?

 

you do not need to change your harness for the swap. All you need to do is add 3 wires for the v-tec to work properly.

Look up all the swap info you need in the 'Guide to Basic accords' stickey at the top of the page.

 

ok, what about the distributor?

the F22 has an internal coil, the h22 has an external coil?

Does it matter which distributor I use?

The reason I ask, I am using the old harness but it does not have wires for an external coil?

 

you just reuse your F22 harness, F22 dizzy, F22 trans, F22 mounts. The only things you need to add are 1) P13 ECU, 2) Vtec wiring 3) Prelude powersteering hose unless you remove it.

 

i have the f22 harness on the h22 motor. ran into a problem...

the 93 H22A1 i have has a external coil and the stock F22 has an internal coil on the distributor.. the F22 harness does not have a plug for the external coil for distributor..

if i cut the plug off the h22 harness, where do i run it on the f22 harness??

also I'm hearing mized things about the drivers side mount.. it appears to line up for me with the stock mount but some places I've read that they've used either hasport or a prelude mount... Any opinions on too???

 

just use the dizzy that came with the car..........

As for the mount, you need the prelude mount, or drill and tap your existing one. Prelude trans requires prelude trans mount.

 

I'm using a H22A1 motor and stock F22A1 5 Speed tranny..

stupid question, but what is the "dizzy"?

eventually i'm gonna add MSD, and would have to switch to a external coil.. wouldn't it be easier if i kept the stock external coil distributor?

 

Usually even the standard H22A has an internal coil. If you got a H22A with an external coil, it means that your H22A has been modified. But that is ok (the ignition will be better, as a matter of fact), because your internal coil in F22 also has 2 wire connected between the distributor and coil (one is +, one is -). The same thing with your external coil in H22. All you have to do is to make sure that the '+' wire from the distributor will connect to the '+' wire of the coil. The same with '-' wire.
What do mean by MSD? MSD coil or MSD Ignition Module / MSD6AL? If MSD 6AL, then this thing has to be installed in between the coil and the distributor. Again you should be careful about the '+' & '-' wires.

 

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Incorrect, the motor came from a STOCK 93 Honda Prelude VTEC with 96K miles. I saw the car before junkyard pulled it.

The distributor is stock...the H22A may come with a internal coil, this is a H22A1, it comes stock with a external...

The only modification to this motor is the H23 Tensioner we put on...painted the valve cover...and a exhaust cutout.

Does anyone have a wiring diagram for a H22A1 External Coil Distributor?

 

Dizzy is the short slang word for distributor. Kind of like Tranny for transmission. The guy was telling you to use the stock f22a1 distributor, instead of the external coil h22 distributor. I'm just doing some research on h engines, and came across here. I don't know if the sohc dizzy will work on the dohc head. I drive an Integra, and you can't use the sohc dizzy on the dohc VTEC engines. Maybe the f/h engines are different. Just my $.02

 

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aaahhh.... thought so..

I've read alot of threads bout this distributor issue... haven't found anything useful..

i'm gonna use the h22 distributor with the external coil..


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I'm not a expert on cars but so far I'm up to 3 vtech wires, the knock sensor and there is one other sensor (forgot what its called).... so far that is 6 wires, not 3.

I'll write it up when the swap is complete....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wburke69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Incorrect, the motor came from a STOCK 93 Honda Prelude VTEC with 96K miles. I saw the car before junkyard pulled it.

The distributor is stock...the H22A may come with a internal coil, this is a H22A1, it comes stock with a external...

The only modification to this motor is the H23 Tensioner we put on...painted the valve cover...and a exhaust cutout.

Does anyone have a wiring diagram for a H22A1 External Coil Distributor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh I c. I just know that some H22 have external coils. I got an H22 with an internal coil, and I modified it, so it is with external coil now. All I have to do is buy an MSD Dizzy cap (has 5 connectors. 1 for the coil, 4 for the spark plug wires), and then take two wire (+ & -) from inside the dizzy out and connect them to the coil.

 

have you all ever heard of CB7Tuner.com? Its a forum for 4th gen accords only. There is a whole write-up on swapping an H22 into the 4th gen accord. Its about the easiest swap ever. I just did it in my car, it was sooooooo easy. I have NEVER swapped a motor in my life and I did it no problem. Well, i did have a problem. I share a shop with a mechanics shop and they spun my cam gears over and it obviously messed up the timing fairly easy fix. It started right up no problem. All the mounts, mount up run 3-4 wires depending on if you have a certain sensor on your H22 (i cant remember what its called) and your done. The F22 dizzy does not mount onto the H22 however you can take all the internals out and put them into the H22 dizzy housing. If you have anymore questions you can emil me at AngieAlexusWill2000@yahoo.com or call me at 816-278-2242.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMH22-92CB7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">have you all ever heard of CB7Tuner.com? Its a forum for 4th gen accords only. There is a whole write-up on swapping an H22 into the 4th gen accord. Its about the easiest swap ever. I just did it in my car, it was sooooooo easy. I have NEVER swapped a motor in my life and I did it no problem. Well, i did have a problem. I share a shop with a mechanics shop and they spun my cam gears over and it obviously messed up the timing fairly easy fix. It started right up no problem. All the mounts, mount up run 3-4 wires depending on if you have a certain sensor on your H22 (i cant remember what its called) and your done. The F22 dizzy does not mount onto the H22 however you can take all the internals out and put them into the H22 dizzy housing. If you have anymore questions you can emil me at AngieAlexusWill2000@yahoo.com or call me at 816-278-2242.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I already did. I have a 94 Honda Accord 4 door w/ a H22 engine now. But now I keep getting an annoying problem. Eventhough it is not fatal. Whenever I step off the acceleration pad, the rpm will go down to 100 (almost died) first, before go upto 800-900rpm. So it always bounce first before stabling. I already replace the IACV with a new one, clean the FITV, clean the throttle, clean the tps sensor, reset the ECU. All of these don't fix the problem.

 

Btw...do you know the honda accord forum for the 5th gen?
Thanks