First off, Sorry if I put this in the wrong section but I didn't know where to put it. So if it's in the wrong spot please move it to where it belongs.

Heres the deal. I have the chance to trade my set-up for a K swap.

I have the following:

FRESH B20 longblock from HMotorsOnline.com
It's a 97 w/ 39k miles
A 95 LS tranny w/ no grids
Brand new Rev Hard stage 2 turbo kit

I could trade it for the following:

04 k20a2 long block w/ 16k
tranny 6 speed
ecu
wire harness
shift linkage
axles
various hoses
lines
ac conpresor
ps pump
alternator
starter
all sensors
intake stock

I personally think the swap is worth it but I need others opinions and I am trying to prove a point to my pops. So what do you think I should do?

 

I'd stick to the K20, you have almost everything for it. Besides, you can later be in with the state ref club. ;] I was reading a thread earlier about some guy with a B20 being state refed but I hear too much arguements about B20's being for light weight trucks and cannot be put in a different chasis.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK9Tune &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd stick to the K20, you have almost everything for it. Besides, you can later be in with the state ref club. ;] I was reading a thread earlier about some guy with a B20 being state refed but I hear too much arguements about B20's being for light weight trucks and cannot be put in a different chasis.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you didn't read it right.....

Personally, I would stick with the B20B Turbo because that K-Swap does not look like it comes with everything that you'll need to drop it into the chassis. Also, if you aren't going to be doing the labor yourself, you're looking at 3-4k at least for labor.

 

Yeah I have to agree, I would stick with the B20-T. You like in VA so you dont have to worry about smog right? And the K20 may be complete, but its not complete in terms of having everything you will need to make it work in your car. Keep the B20

 

But I'm looking at the parts list, I know he's missing stuff like mounts, karcept adapter, fuel rail, and there's a lot I've missed I know. I guess if he likes the feel of boost he should stick to the B20. I would go with the K20 and just buy the rest of the parts needed. I stated he has "almost" everything for it.

 

Just sell him your setup and go h2b. You'll be as fast as a k20, and for 1/3 the cost.

 

Naw, I want to stick with either 2 of these.

 

You still have some other expensive things you'll need to get to swap the K20 into your car. You'll need mounts, axles (I'm guessing the ones it comes with are the stock axles), hondata k pro, a harness conversion, clutch line, fuel lines, an aftermarket fuel rail and fpr, header, intake, the karcepts shifter mounting kit, etc, etc, etc. That stuff isn't cheap.

If you want the k, go for it. If you want to go H2B, go for it. If you want to go B20 turbo, go for it. I don't really care what you do.

 

I do realize that but I am still yet to buy hasports, s300, and axles for my B swap as well although K swap parts are a little bit pricier I would spend it. I only have time becuase this is my project car. BTW it's a 95 EJ2 coupe.

 

honestly, the only reason to go k-series is for its N/A potential and possible higher HP down the road out of FI. Right now, a B-Series Turbo can put out the same, if not more, hp than a k-series turbo. It looks like you are going to do FI. Stick with the B.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just sell him your setup and go h2b. You'll be as fast as a k20, and for 1/3 the cost.

</TD></TR></TABLE> good point. you love those h2b swaps, don't you

Here's the way i look at it. I was 1st thinking the k series swap because it's a nice swap, and you'll be different from a lot of others, especially locally.(if you go to meets and shows) good

But a turbo B20 is sick, and... to sum up what i was going to say <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nongan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">honestly, the only reason to go k-series is for its N/A potential and possible higher HP down the road out of FI. Right now, a B-Series Turbo can put out the same, if not more, hp than a k-series turbo. It looks like you are going to do FI. Stick with the B.</TD></TR></TABLE> ...he already said it.

I don't know exactly what you'd be missing for the K, but you'll proabably have more fun with the B20. think of what you can do down the line. Build it, b16 head, so on and so forth.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boost_V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> good point. you love those h2b swaps, don't you </TD></TR></TABLE>

I've driven two. And was hella impressed both times.

 

this will probly seem like a dumb question to most but what all does an h2b swap require? im figuring an h22. what else?

 

B series tranny and a swap kit which cost around $1200 (approx)

 

and that does what vs h22 with h22 tranny?

 

nevermind, i searched it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I've driven two. And was hella impressed both times. </TD></TR></TABLE> I'd like to drive one. Does that count??


So Chirp, what are you thinking you're going to do?

 

I'd be interested in getting the K swap but I am unsure.. The guy doesn't seem like he is willing to do a leakdown test. If he doesn't do one than it's a no-go.

 

I don' understand why you have to <U>'prove'</U> to your father if your car is fast or not....LOL

Have you looked into investing into a more lighter platform such as the Civic 92-95?

Are your goals strictly for cornering? or just straightaways?

 

I don't have to prove.. But me and him are building the car together. And the swap is going into a 92-95 Civic
This is going to be corny or ricey or whatever you want to call it but the car is going to be a pure street car.

I'm was trying to prove to him that the K swap and my swap are worth about the same in price range (compared to what the other dude is asking for his swap)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just sell him your setup and go h2b. You'll be as fast as a k20, and for 1/3 the cost.

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Ah ek fo eva, youre always telling people to go h2b eh? Every thread like this you say the same thing. "As fast as a K20 for 1/3 the cost" Whats your amusement with H2Bs? do you even have one? Pics of said H2B?


I agree with you tho, f the K20 or the B20, bump up your displacement to 2.2 and smoke fools all day

 

I've driven two h2bs, and one k24 while I was at tokyo speed pros in phoenix.

I'm getting funds ready for an h2b build this fall.

 

i'd stick to the b20

save all that time and money and make the B faster

 

the k is still younger than the b...

you can get a k now, swap it in, and then bolt on newer parts later on...

the BC stroker kit for the k is tempting.. makes your k20 into a k22..

or go for the k, and then get a cheap accord/element/crv k24 block..

and then turbo that..



a2 head + k24 block + 6-speed + FI =

 

id go for the boost ... you said its going to be a street car .. not a show car nor a track car.. stick with the h2b or at least i would, and what ever you decide to do.. good luck