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Cars crushed in street racing crackdown By GREG RISLING, Associated Press Writer
Wed Jun 20, 6:52 PM ET
RIALTO, Calif. - Charles Hoang winced when the whoosh went out of the tires. Daniel Maldonado took pictures with a digital camera as glass exploded and rained down to the ground.
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The cars the teens had so meticulously souped up and tricked out were crushed Wednesday as part of a crackdown on illegal street racing in Southern California.
"That's my heart, my dream," said Hoang, 18, of Chino, who was surrounded by friends as his 1998 Acura Integra was put into a compactor. "That's my girlfriend, the love of my life. The cops can crush my car, but they can't crush my memories."
Authorities destroyed six vehicles Wednesday at an auto graveyard, hoping would-be racers think again after looking at the mashed machines. Illegal street racing is responsible for or suspected in 13 deaths in Southern California since March.
The thrill-seeking, adrenaline-pumping activity is rampant in Riverside and San Bernardino counties east of Los Angeles where rows of tract homes line wide streets that attract racers.
Nearly 1,000 people — drivers and spectators — have been arrested for investigation of street racing activities over the past two years in San Bernardino County alone. Police need a court order to destroy the cars. They must prove that the serial or identification numbers on a vehicle or its parts are removed, altered or destroyed.
Police said they have managed to reduce illegal racing and related fatal collisions, but know the underground hobby still thrives.
"We are making a dent," said Ontario police Cpl. Jeff Higbee. "But it's summertime and ... we expect to see more activity."
Hoang said he was caught late last year racing his prized car, on which he spent at least $10,000 to get into top shape. The 350-horsepower engine topped out at 160 mph, Hoang said, swearing it could beat a Corvette or even a Ferrari.
When police popped open the hood, Hoang said, they found a stolen transmission. Hoang flashed a receipt for the transmission he bought from his father who runs an auto shop and doubted the item was hot.
"Everything on that car was practically brand new," Hoang said as he watched his car get moved to auto death row. "They should take out the stuff that matters, auction it off, and give the money to charity."
Because racers put heavy stress on their vehicles, they often burn out or blow up parts. Higbee said the need for the expensive parts has created a "theft mill" where additional cars — usually Hondas or Acuras — are stolen and stripped of the necessary replacements.
Most of the cars police examine are illegally modified. Sergio Zavala, 18, was pulled over in his 1993 yellow Honda Civic for a broken tail light in December. He had purchased a B-20 Vtech engine with a double-overhead cam a couple months before, and after a police investigation, was told it was stolen.
Zavala, who admits he's been involved in street racing, estimates he and his mother spent about $10,000 on improvements to his car.
After watching his Civic demolished, Zavala is left without a car as he plans to attend a fire academy in the fall.
"It's heartbreaking to see this," said Zavala, who graduated from high school last week. "This is where all my time and money went."
Maldonado also said he put plenty of time and effort working on his 1992 black Honda Civic. He was stopped in November by police in what Higbee described as an area where racers gather.
The 18-year-old mechanic said a vehicle identification sticker apparently fell off and without it, police suspected some of the parts were stolen. Maldonado stood several feet away from his car as it was pounded into a heap of metal.
Maldonado said he has taken the advice of police by racing legally on one of several race courses around Southern California. For the money spent in fines and other penalties — on average about $5,000 for illegally modified cars — Higbee said street racers could compete about 250 times a year at a legitimate track.
"If you have to race, take it to a legal venue," Higbee said. "But as long as they keep racing illegally, we keep crushing their cars."
All three men who saw their vehicles destroyed said they believe illegal street racing will continue to prosper across the region.
"It will never go away," Maldonado said. "If it's in your heart, you will continue to do it until you can't anymore."
Wed Jun 20, 6:52 PM ET
RIALTO, Calif. - Charles Hoang winced when the whoosh went out of the tires. Daniel Maldonado took pictures with a digital camera as glass exploded and rained down to the ground.
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The cars the teens had so meticulously souped up and tricked out were crushed Wednesday as part of a crackdown on illegal street racing in Southern California.
"That's my heart, my dream," said Hoang, 18, of Chino, who was surrounded by friends as his 1998 Acura Integra was put into a compactor. "That's my girlfriend, the love of my life. The cops can crush my car, but they can't crush my memories."
Authorities destroyed six vehicles Wednesday at an auto graveyard, hoping would-be racers think again after looking at the mashed machines. Illegal street racing is responsible for or suspected in 13 deaths in Southern California since March.
The thrill-seeking, adrenaline-pumping activity is rampant in Riverside and San Bernardino counties east of Los Angeles where rows of tract homes line wide streets that attract racers.
Nearly 1,000 people — drivers and spectators — have been arrested for investigation of street racing activities over the past two years in San Bernardino County alone. Police need a court order to destroy the cars. They must prove that the serial or identification numbers on a vehicle or its parts are removed, altered or destroyed.
Police said they have managed to reduce illegal racing and related fatal collisions, but know the underground hobby still thrives.
"We are making a dent," said Ontario police Cpl. Jeff Higbee. "But it's summertime and ... we expect to see more activity."
Hoang said he was caught late last year racing his prized car, on which he spent at least $10,000 to get into top shape. The 350-horsepower engine topped out at 160 mph, Hoang said, swearing it could beat a Corvette or even a Ferrari.
When police popped open the hood, Hoang said, they found a stolen transmission. Hoang flashed a receipt for the transmission he bought from his father who runs an auto shop and doubted the item was hot.
"Everything on that car was practically brand new," Hoang said as he watched his car get moved to auto death row. "They should take out the stuff that matters, auction it off, and give the money to charity."
Because racers put heavy stress on their vehicles, they often burn out or blow up parts. Higbee said the need for the expensive parts has created a "theft mill" where additional cars — usually Hondas or Acuras — are stolen and stripped of the necessary replacements.
Most of the cars police examine are illegally modified. Sergio Zavala, 18, was pulled over in his 1993 yellow Honda Civic for a broken tail light in December. He had purchased a B-20 Vtech engine with a double-overhead cam a couple months before, and after a police investigation, was told it was stolen.
Zavala, who admits he's been involved in street racing, estimates he and his mother spent about $10,000 on improvements to his car.
After watching his Civic demolished, Zavala is left without a car as he plans to attend a fire academy in the fall.
"It's heartbreaking to see this," said Zavala, who graduated from high school last week. "This is where all my time and money went."
Maldonado also said he put plenty of time and effort working on his 1992 black Honda Civic. He was stopped in November by police in what Higbee described as an area where racers gather.
The 18-year-old mechanic said a vehicle identification sticker apparently fell off and without it, police suspected some of the parts were stolen. Maldonado stood several feet away from his car as it was pounded into a heap of metal.
Maldonado said he has taken the advice of police by racing legally on one of several race courses around Southern California. For the money spent in fines and other penalties — on average about $5,000 for illegally modified cars — Higbee said street racers could compete about 250 times a year at a legitimate track.
"If you have to race, take it to a legal venue," Higbee said. "But as long as they keep racing illegally, we keep crushing their cars."
All three men who saw their vehicles destroyed said they believe illegal street racing will continue to prosper across the region.
"It will never go away," Maldonado said. "If it's in your heart, you will continue to do it until you can't anymore."
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Re: feelin Bad for Cali!!!! (god of war)
At least up here in some parts of Connecticut the police come along flash their lights and tell people that it's time to go without giving anyone a ticket. in other parts you may get a ticket and you car towed if it's not registered or your driving without a suspended lic.
For Cali. police to crush someones car to me is like stealing a car and the money out into it!! I posted this because there are a lot of people who don't know that a couple of states like Cali do this!!!
For Cali. police to crush someones car to me is like stealing a car and the money out into it!! I posted this because there are a lot of people who don't know that a couple of states like Cali do this!!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I bet when they heard about it 3/4 of them gave up street racing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I highly doubt that. Alot of those idiots will continue to street race.
I highly doubt that. Alot of those idiots will continue to street race.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I highly doubt that. Alot of those idiots will continue to street race. </TD></TR></TABLE>
It's hard to believe that all of the people that say "street racing" is stupid, haven't been in one themselves. We are all here cuz we like to drive fast, i know it's dumb but can we stop pretending that we have never done it.
I highly doubt that. Alot of those idiots will continue to street race.
</TD></TR></TABLE>It's hard to believe that all of the people that say "street racing" is stupid, haven't been in one themselves. We are all here cuz we like to drive fast, i know it's dumb but can we stop pretending that we have never done it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SleeperGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It's hard to believe that all of the people that say "street racing" is stupid, haven't been in one themselves. We are all here cuz we like to drive fast, i know it's dumb but can we stop pretending that we have never done it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, of course I have done it before, and I've been busted twice, for either racing or attending a race. No I will not ever do it again.
It's hard to believe that all of the people that say "street racing" is stupid, haven't been in one themselves. We are all here cuz we like to drive fast, i know it's dumb but can we stop pretending that we have never done it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, of course I have done it before, and I've been busted twice, for either racing or attending a race. No I will not ever do it again.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SleeperGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It's hard to believe that all of the people that say "street racing" is stupid, haven't been in one themselves. We are all here cuz we like to drive fast, i know it's dumb but can we stop pretending that we have never done it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I would never claim that I haven't been a complete idiot on the road, driving fast enough to put others in danger. I've done it, whether or not I was actively engaged in racing another idiot. We've all been stupid, inexperienced, and overconfident. And thats when mistakes happen.
Street racing is stupid. Period.
My last HPDE cost me $225. Whats the cheapest ticket you can get for street racing? I know "Exhibition of Speed" tickets run $350, and that's without adding speeding, reckless endangerment, or any number of other offenses that can be lumped together with it, and also without the increased insurance, driver's school, or any number of other hidden costs of getting the tickets. On top of that, the HPDE included instructors, and had safety personal on hand just in case. With all of that factored in, its definitely cheaper to attend HPDEs or do "time attacks" and time trials than dealing with the law.
Then again, regardless of the consequences, there will be street racers. Its a game, and it wouldn't be fun to them if wasn't illegal. The higher the consequences, the more thrilling getting away with it is. Eventually, everyone gets caught, but there will always be a fresh pool of new idiots entering the game to replace them. Its a never ending game, and the real losers are the innocents who get hurt. The racers never really get what they deserve.
It's hard to believe that all of the people that say "street racing" is stupid, haven't been in one themselves. We are all here cuz we like to drive fast, i know it's dumb but can we stop pretending that we have never done it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I would never claim that I haven't been a complete idiot on the road, driving fast enough to put others in danger. I've done it, whether or not I was actively engaged in racing another idiot. We've all been stupid, inexperienced, and overconfident. And thats when mistakes happen.
Street racing is stupid. Period.
My last HPDE cost me $225. Whats the cheapest ticket you can get for street racing? I know "Exhibition of Speed" tickets run $350, and that's without adding speeding, reckless endangerment, or any number of other offenses that can be lumped together with it, and also without the increased insurance, driver's school, or any number of other hidden costs of getting the tickets. On top of that, the HPDE included instructors, and had safety personal on hand just in case. With all of that factored in, its definitely cheaper to attend HPDEs or do "time attacks" and time trials than dealing with the law.
Then again, regardless of the consequences, there will be street racers. Its a game, and it wouldn't be fun to them if wasn't illegal. The higher the consequences, the more thrilling getting away with it is. Eventually, everyone gets caught, but there will always be a fresh pool of new idiots entering the game to replace them. Its a never ending game, and the real losers are the innocents who get hurt. The racers never really get what they deserve.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">******* deserve to have their **** crushed.
Street racing FTL. I've had 3 friends hurt or killed as innocent drivers due to street racing.
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I dont agree with street racing.. but this applys to missing vin numbers too.... which for people like me who have swaped from tan to black or have a 94 or 95 teg that never came with a vin on the tranny spells trouble...
I think the number was like 17 people killed last year due to street racing... im not sure about that number but i know it was like in the teens... which is rediculously low compared to deaths of other things....
i honestly think this is wrong...
not because i like street racing... i dont stand for that one bit.
but seriously they are dumping millions of dollars to save a couple lives....
i mean i dont want to sound heartless but that money could really really really reallllyyy do much much much more life saving in other areas...
Racing will die by itself. gasoline prices will kill it. the cost of living will kill it. this country is heading for depression if a new reliable fuel source isnt made available soon.
Street racing FTL. I've had 3 friends hurt or killed as innocent drivers due to street racing.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I dont agree with street racing.. but this applys to missing vin numbers too.... which for people like me who have swaped from tan to black or have a 94 or 95 teg that never came with a vin on the tranny spells trouble...
I think the number was like 17 people killed last year due to street racing... im not sure about that number but i know it was like in the teens... which is rediculously low compared to deaths of other things....
i honestly think this is wrong...
not because i like street racing... i dont stand for that one bit.
but seriously they are dumping millions of dollars to save a couple lives....
i mean i dont want to sound heartless but that money could really really really reallllyyy do much much much more life saving in other areas...
Racing will die by itself. gasoline prices will kill it. the cost of living will kill it. this country is heading for depression if a new reliable fuel source isnt made available soon.
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I would never claim that I haven't been a complete idiot on the road, driving fast enough to put others in danger. I've done it, whether or not I was actively engaged in racing another idiot. We've all been stupid, inexperienced, and overconfident. And thats when mistakes happen.
Street racing is stupid. Period.
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You are missing the point. If its so stupid then why did you do it. maybe cuz it was fun, maybe cuz the track isn't open everyday. I don't support "street racing" but i do like to have fun in a car. I can undersand why others act this way. I just got back from a HPDE at lime rock, it was great! Nothing even close to driving on the street. I would suggest for everyone to try one of these if you haven't. But you can guarentee that the next time i have some open road ahead of me and it starts to get a little twisty you bet i'm gonna go fast. It's spirited driving, not reckless, but mostly over the speed limit. If you drive around on the road always following the speed limit signs why did you modify your car? Why not just trailer it to the track and drive a minivan. I know why, cuz it would suck to drive a mini van. Please don't act like you don't do this, cuz i know that everyone who says "street racing is for idiots" has been at a stop light and raced the ricer next to them to show them what a real car can do because they love the car they drive and how fast it can go.
I would never claim that I haven't been a complete idiot on the road, driving fast enough to put others in danger. I've done it, whether or not I was actively engaged in racing another idiot. We've all been stupid, inexperienced, and overconfident. And thats when mistakes happen.
Street racing is stupid. Period.
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You are missing the point. If its so stupid then why did you do it. maybe cuz it was fun, maybe cuz the track isn't open everyday. I don't support "street racing" but i do like to have fun in a car. I can undersand why others act this way. I just got back from a HPDE at lime rock, it was great! Nothing even close to driving on the street. I would suggest for everyone to try one of these if you haven't. But you can guarentee that the next time i have some open road ahead of me and it starts to get a little twisty you bet i'm gonna go fast. It's spirited driving, not reckless, but mostly over the speed limit. If you drive around on the road always following the speed limit signs why did you modify your car? Why not just trailer it to the track and drive a minivan. I know why, cuz it would suck to drive a mini van. Please don't act like you don't do this, cuz i know that everyone who says "street racing is for idiots" has been at a stop light and raced the ricer next to them to show them what a real car can do because they love the car they drive and how fast it can go.
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sux i used to live in cali cali suxs cuz of cops and all that ish i live in nc u get caught racing here its just a big fine my friend got caight racing twice and only got a ticket cali sucks if u wanna have a cura or honda becuz of smog and racing and cops always pulled me over for having a honda here in nc its diff screw cali
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Take it to track where it's safer and legal..don't have to risk losing your ****. too much money lost to live your life a quarter mile at a time....and in those 10 seconds or less of freedom lol.
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i agree take it to the track but see when i lived in cali last year the main problem is street racing so cops crack down on racers by smashng their cars here in nc car crushing doesnt exsit becuz street racing here isnt an issue if you dont like it dont street race or move out of cali for all i know i think only cali smashes cars for street racing i cud be wrong, if you love street racing move to a state where racing doesnt exsit hahah lol 
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but i will say one thing cops r stupid just cuz they crush ur car doesnt mean im never gonna fix up my car or stop racing it will always be in ur blood crushing cars isnt gonna slove anything just make ppl mad
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHCgarage919 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but i will say one thing cops r stupid just cuz they crush ur car doesnt mean im never gonna fix up my car or stop racing it will always be in ur blood crushing cars isnt gonna slove anything just make ppl mad </TD></TR></TABLE>
jeez you're a ******* idiot. how old are you? 16?
jeez you're a ******* idiot. how old are you? 16?
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We are all here for the same reason CARS. Some care about looks and some care about speed, or even both. Everyone has done it and most of us will still do it. I say if your going to race do it cautiously! If you see traffic slowing down or a car in front of you dont run into the emergency lane on the freeway just so you can beat the guy (just slow down), etc, ect....
But i think that when you go out of your way as in looking for a particular place to street race, then that is stupid! If your looking for an empty road to challenge someone then why not do it at the track????!!!!
-I always say; If you know u can't beat it, dont race it!
-If its not a challenge...............................^^^^^^^!
But i think that when you go out of your way as in looking for a particular place to street race, then that is stupid! If your looking for an empty road to challenge someone then why not do it at the track????!!!!
-I always say; If you know u can't beat it, dont race it!
-If its not a challenge...............................^^^^^^^!
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who thinks doood is a freaking **** talker give me a thumbs up he has noting good to say here but just get ppl angry and talk smack like in his other postings